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The Kiss Cam Catastrophe
A split-second decision to duck away from a kiss cam at a Coldplay concert has forever altered the lives of two executives, and the internet can't get enough of it. When the CEO and his HR chief realized they were being broadcast to thousands of concertgoers—and potentially their spouses at home—their panicked reaction spoke volumes. Even Chris Martin couldn't resist commenting, "They're either super shy or cheating." Spoiler alert: it wasn't shyness.
We unpack this viral moment that's sparked an avalanche of memes across social media, from Star Wars characters embracing Batman to sports mascots performing their own parody. But beneath the humor lies a serious conversation about workplace ethics, power dynamics, and the devastating ripple effects of infidelity in the digital age. The fact that these individuals were at a company event makes their behavior all the more problematic, raising questions about how she obtained her position and what other professional boundaries may have been crossed.
What drives someone to risk everything for an affair? We explore the psychology behind cheating, including the fascinating theory that some people become addicted to the "honeymoon phase" of relationships—constantly chasing that initial thrill while still wanting the stability of marriage. Through personal reflections and honest conversation, we challenge listeners to consider the real-world consequences of infidelity: destroyed families, traumatized children, and ruined reputations. The message is clear—if you're unhappy, address it directly rather than betraying trust. In today's hyper-connected world, the cameras are always rolling, and the consequences of that one reckless moment might just follow you forever.
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Hello and welcome to Kotman Crawford and the Jersey Guy Hello.
Speaker 2:How's everybody doing? Chilling Like a villain? Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. Being good Bugging out with social media stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, it's a lot of crazy stuff going on. Man, I know it's nuts, it's the craziest, coolest.
Speaker 2:Crazy stuff going on. It's that dumb shit that people do right, because now it's more blatant.
Speaker 1:Yeah, now it's like they don't even care, right? So what we're talking about not that they they actually don't care is really what it's looking like. Right, okay, all right.
Speaker 2:So what we're talking about is the kiss cam issue, not issue the the busted, because people that's what lou saying that people just don't give a shit because of how they did it.
Speaker 3:I just love the amount of memes that have come out of that shit Like it's hilarious.
Speaker 2:Like.
Speaker 3:I mean, there was one, one of my favorite, because you know.
Speaker 2:I'm a.
Speaker 3:Star.
Speaker 1:Wars fan, the best one is with.
Speaker 3:Obi-Wan with his arms around Batman.
Speaker 2:Wait, was that great? So meme Okay is with Obi-Wan with his arms around Batman. Right bro?
Speaker 1:wait, was this great, yeah, so meme, okay, yeah did they?
Speaker 3:you know they should have done one with, like, batman holding Harley Quinn. Oh, that would have been awesome.
Speaker 2:We'll get to work bro yeah, I bet you not want her holding Catwoman, that would have been well no, because they're both bad guys yeah, but that would have been well, no, because they're both bad guys.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but Catwoman and Batman had a thing and Batman had a thing, yeah, yeah, maybe it would probably go over people's heads.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that's great, but dude, but it's the truth. So you know, for those who didn't see Ender Ketchum they did.
Speaker 3:There was a CEO of the company and he had his HR chief and they were dating. And yeah, if you didn't see that, welcome to the internet, because you must have just come on right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what it was. And so they were at a cold play concert, and when that kiss cam thing came up and they realized that they were on it, they both ducked oh, they took, I mean like they just took flight. Said then, what's his name from cold play? He turned around and he's like oh, they're either super shy or they're cheating. Yeah, right, yeah.
Speaker 1:And he was right on the second one.
Speaker 3:My wife showed me this post that was going around. So the person, I doubt it highly because they have a high social media account. They had, like you know, like hundreds of thousands of followers and they said that they were the one who was on the kiss cam, who was the camera person for the kiss cam. But they said something like that. There's like this secret, like industry thing, like if you see older couples like holding each other or lovey, like not to record them because they're probably because older couples that are happy are probably.
Speaker 1:Are you serious?
Speaker 3:That's crazy.
Speaker 1:And they did it anyway.
Speaker 3:So, like you know, but I don't know if that's true or not, but that does kind of I mean not saying like older couples Right. Like you know how the new Right, the new, like newly couple energy you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, I'm not saying like you know like it's just like you know when you're in the honeymoon phase you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so if you're cheating.
Speaker 3:You're going to be in the honeymoon phase.
Speaker 1:Right, of course, you just kind of got together and you're all lovey dovey.
Speaker 2:So, like.
Speaker 3:that's why they say like the kiss cam that makes sense.
Speaker 1:That is so.
Speaker 2:There was one where the guy was sitting at a sporting event and he had a sign that they said that's my sister, I mean she's holding it like that, which is great, you know, to make sure that. No way, man. That's freaking hilarious, that's awesome, well, so then? Well, on that thing, come to find out that the lady that was standing off to their side, that she kind of like had her face kind of like she was laughing her ass off right, but she wasn't laughing because what it was is that she was their pr person.
Speaker 2:I believe, believe it was something like that. So she worked. So what happened was that she literally just had a nervous breakdown on camera. Because what it was was that they were actually there on a business event. Oh man, so it was like everybody, all the crew, was there. You feel me so like it was the Okay you know what?
Speaker 3:Then he's an idiot for doing all the co-working.
Speaker 2:First of all.
Speaker 1:It's inappropriate. It's not the place to be doing it.
Speaker 2:That's why they both had to get fired or resigned or whatever. Because it was a work event. Him being who he was is why it blew up the way that it did.
Speaker 3:I'm not saying I approve of cheating, but don't be stupid.
Speaker 1:You're with your co-workers, that's what I mean by it being.
Speaker 3:It's so blatant now, yeah, right, that it's. You know what you deserve it, right, exactly. If you're that blatant about, you, know you get what's coming to you.
Speaker 1:Having an affair, yes, then you know You're probably going to get caught anyway, right, but sooner if you deal with the way you just did. Right, and you know what.
Speaker 3:I don't believe, If literally your entire, like coworkers, like your entire, yeah, everybody knows everybody at work knows, dude, that's messed up.
Speaker 2:That is way messed up, Because I mean, think about it you deserve to get caught If they knew his wife. Who over? I mean he was the CEO he is Well.
Speaker 3:he was the CEO. He was.
Speaker 2:Was the CEO. And now, you know, you bring your wife to with this other chick. Listen, I'm not the angel, you know what I'm saying, I'm not the. Oh my God, I can't believe they did that. You know, it's just more along the lines of like, dude, you just don't be that rude about it. You know, like Lou said, that blatant, you know, and I said, I by no way shape or form condone the cheating, you know, but, dude, that's like now your kid's straight.
Speaker 3:I'm going to say, though, you know what he's the CEO? He's probably cocky as fuck. Well, yeah, you know what I mean. Oh, I'm not going to get part of the CEO. Exactly, I'm powerful, yeah.
Speaker 2:And the bad part is that now he's not going to probably be able to get a job anywhere. Yeah, because now they're both going to be investigated.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so then like Because she was, you know, under his desk. Well, you know what would be the smartest move for them.
Speaker 1:You don't know that Reality show. You don't know she was under his desk.
Speaker 3:That would be a smart move.
Speaker 2:No, not literally.
Speaker 1:I'm saying that, that would be some shit right now, because that's all they got. I know I'll be on a desk.
Speaker 3:I'll be on top of a desk, so if they're not getting hired anywhere, right then what was the the news couple that they did, that they had the affair on on was on cbs in the morning.
Speaker 1:You call the show kiss cam couple really, yeah, I didn't know about this.
Speaker 2:Was this something I would? Yeah, no, I can't remember their names right now, but it was a how far back are we going? Like a year or so, not even that. And they were on the show and they were both you know, the anchors or whatever and they were having an affair. Something was said or they got caught out somewhere and they were both married and they ended up getting caught. And the funny, the irony of this whole shit is that the newscasters right they were having an affair. When all this came out, that they were having the affair, their husband and wife ended up getting married and hooked up.
Speaker 1:Wow, get out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, that's karma, baby.
Speaker 1:Yeah, listen At its best.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying, bro, and I guess so for me too you know the kids, bro. Now you're at a Coldplay concert, you're on all type of social media now and now your kids, now your kids, your kids', friends, their families and think about you know, luckily it's the summer, so stuff might die out by the time no.
Speaker 3:Well, maybe it won't be as bad.
Speaker 2:I think it'll be bad, but it won't be as bad as if like the next day as far as the kids, because the kids now.
Speaker 3:they're going to come to school and they're going to get bullied Yo that was your parents. Oh, why didn't you think of that?
Speaker 1:yeah you know, sorry, we put that out for the summer, so it could fizz maybe over 100% yeah, it's gonna take time yeah, I don't know how old that kid's time right I?
Speaker 3:don't know how old that kid's time.
Speaker 1:It's gonna take how long it needs to take, because that's how long it's gonna take, but it would be worse if, like this, happened during oh bro, because it's Coldplay bro Granted, coldplay's an older band.
Speaker 2:You know, for older people, whatever you want to call it, it's not like it's going to be, you know, teenagers but it still means that they're just replaying them on all of the social media, did you?
Speaker 1:see the one at Philadelphia Phillies. They have that green character. I can't remember his name. They also have a female version of it and they were doing a spoof on that situation. No, I didn't see that one.
Speaker 2:It was fantastic, it was hysterical.
Speaker 1:Because, they have a mascot Because they zoomed in on him Right and they were like oh, I love you. A man with a female mascot Right, and they were all like you know, and then they were like oh no, it was the same character, but a female For the Phillies. That would have been funnier, though, if it was like a rival team's mascot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but they don't bring their mascot, because that would have been like hysterical.
Speaker 1:That would actually be a good idea if you could just change it online. Oh yeah, you know, just go ahead and go in and just change it, but like who's With AI and everything you can I know, but it would be funnier if it was like IRL. You know what I mean? No, no, I get it. I get it, but it was still funny because you know what they were doing and why they did it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because the Philadelphia, the Phillies guy, the mascot with Mrs Met that would have been funny, because I think that's the only other female Is that a rival of Phillies and Mets. I don't want to say rival, but yeah, kind of. You know what I mean. But it still would have been because, mrs Met, I think she's the only female in baseball. I think I'm not positive, don't quote me on that. I'm just saying that because, mrs Met, because, even know, I don't like them Yankees, no, alu, you don't know.
Speaker 1:Yes, I know you don't. Is there a mascot? I was listening to you guys. I'm just looking something up?
Speaker 2:Did the Yankees have a mascot?
Speaker 1:They used to yeah.
Speaker 3:Like in the stadium right. Yeah, maybe I don't know Well, but still Because it was like Red Sox. Imagine if it was Red Sox.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Red Sox would yeah with the Yankees. That would be fabulous.
Speaker 3:Because that would be. You know, that's like one of the biggest rivals in baseball.
Speaker 1:Philly's fanatic is what he's called Philly's. That's right. Yes, he is the Philly's fanatic, just insane.
Speaker 2:But you know, I mean I, I don't know what, what do you think? I mean, bro, do you know it? It's cheating. You know I'm saying it's cheating, listen we've all.
Speaker 1:I listen, I'm no angel. I've been there on both sides of the coin as far as you know whether it was cheating or it was being cheated on but you know, you grow up right, you know what I'm saying and you figure shit out. You hope people do it, but those, these people were already set. I mean, he was an older guy, right, you know he had to be my age at least. Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 3:Close, or a little older, or maybe a little older, and was it his executive assistant?
Speaker 2:No, no no no, no, no no no, she was the chief of.
Speaker 1:HR, and that goes against everything HR says. So now, here's the thing.
Speaker 2:So you're not supposed to have. So the problem and the thing was that because of him being the boss of the company, that now this girl comes up and she's the chief of HR, so now they're not supposed to. So you know they're not supposed to. You know you're not supposed to have the relations with your co-worker, somebody else in the company, like that. That's fair. But because of what their positions were, right Is why it is that there was the issue, because is that how she got the job?
Speaker 1:Oh, I don't know about that you feel what I'm saying. I don't want to get in.
Speaker 2:That's the question no, no, no, I'm saying not for us, but I'm saying as far as them being fired. Who would know?
Speaker 1:that.
Speaker 2:And what else may have been. So now they got to go through the investigation to see.
Speaker 3:It's kind of like the chicken or the egg. Exactly Did she get hired, or that they meet one another?
Speaker 1:and they hit it off Right, and then you know, then somehow he's like oh, I can get you a job, or whatever Exactly, and hook her up, and there you go, and one thing leads to another.
Speaker 2:You never know, we really don't know. We're speculating right now. No, no, right, everybody's speculating, right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, is she a new hire? She's definitely Definitely younger than him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I didn't read read in all of it, because if she's a, new hire and then he's with her already.
Speaker 3:that might be a little more obvious, but it could be he just like scooped her up like right away. Like oh, check out the new. You know the new girl. Look at my side piece.
Speaker 1:But I mean, look at it.
Speaker 2:We talk about anywhere, though.
Speaker 1:Or the gommad is right. That's the side piece.
Speaker 3:That's the side piece. I used to work with a guy who was like a player and like, whenever there was like a new girl at like the you know place, he was like, oh you know, it'd be like, oh you know it was like exciting for him Right. You know yeah.
Speaker 1:So like so like it could be like she was a new hire vampire, you know what I mean and he was like, possibly just a little bit of flirting or whatever. The possibilities are endless, I'm sure, if we go through all of them, right. Right, I mean, think about it, but maybe, and it might be something that we're totally going to be side, you know right, because it's going to be not what we were saying. It's going to be like I wouldn't have thought that maybe it would be one of those kind of things.
Speaker 1:who knows, you know like, but like. But that's the thing. We'll never know until we find out. I'm sure more information will come out, I'm sure. But it's funny. I mean, they were just so blatant and the fact that they were in the positions they were in, like you said, makes it even worse. Because now, what kind of you know? You're not a good. What's the word I'm looking for? Example Example.
Speaker 1:thank you, yeah to show thank you. Right, you're telling your employees to do the same thing. And now, on top of it, they know because they already know, and that was from what I'm understanding.
Speaker 2:And that's right, and that's what I had her understood last, that that chick was. You know that they had said it was a company function and you know that's Okie, dokie, yeah, so again, wow, now think about it, and this is anywhere. So we'll say that, fine, that they were, you know they were definitely in a suite.
Speaker 3:I could see the glass behind them. You know what I mean. They weren't a nice Right.
Speaker 2:And this is. This is no-transcript, I just think on a lower level it's more acceptable.
Speaker 1:But you know to be at that level.
Speaker 2:I think that that's why it is that it's blowing up the way that it is. You know what I'm saying and again, you know.
Speaker 1:But people just goofing on them now too. Well, they're goofing because, bro, they hit the deck, bro. I think it was the reaction that made it so crazy, that made it so crazy, and that's the thing I said.
Speaker 3:I was saying too to Tara I was saying, if they like, just played it cool, yeah, they probably no one would have noticed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean. Because no one's watching it when you're doing something wrong, you react accordingly.
Speaker 3:Yeah, right, and you go If all the coworkers know. Mm-hmm it's, they don't. They don't put that shit on tv, they don't put concert, they don't put like the kiss cam yeah, they don't.
Speaker 2:Nobody does that. All the people in the stadium see yeah, and the only time you see this when you're actually watching it live.
Speaker 3:It's like baseball game or ball games so like if he didn't react that way and just played it cool, like he would just be like oh, if someone sees it, then I'll get caught, right if I fucking yeah, it's so obvious.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, cause, you see, I said the same thing because had he turned around and, like you know, like you know, he was holding her from behind, if he would turn around and held her hands out and been like a joke or whatever, then it probably would've played off as a funny and it would've gotten busted, that one would've been better than that because they wouldn't have ducked down, he wouldn't even make that joke.
Speaker 1:He'd be like oh, look at that nice couple. You know what I mean. One of the kids will find it a few weeks later and go hey, isn't that that? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And then bring it to mom and like but again, we're assuming that that's all we've been doing is assuming. No, no. What I'm saying is saying that that we'd be assuming that.
Speaker 1:It would have made it on the internet because nobody would kill him I see what you're saying because it wasn't worth, right but because of the reaction right.
Speaker 3:I got sort of even absolutely I agree. I was going a different direction if someone posted the concert on YouTube and they were on there on the kiss cam like five or six people saw it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe you know what I mean by luck. How many people upload their videos, right?
Speaker 3:every time they go to a concert there's like a thousand videos.
Speaker 1:Right, but that's the whole thing. What's the word you know to be able to go back and change that now? You'd be like I should have known that, yeah, but you reacted because that's how you he was guilty.
Speaker 2:You felt yeah, you knew what you were doing was wrong, and even with think about his wife. So if he like, if he was going on this business trip, and he's like, yeah, honey, we're gonna go, you know co-play as part of the whole package, or whatever and the wife is gonna say, oh, you know, I want to see the co-play thing too, or you know that she's gonna end up logging in to see how it was, or whatever you know like, because I just like you know, we find out that I didn't even know you could live stream certain uh, concerts and such you know what I'm saying Of course.
Speaker 2:So then I didn't know that.
Speaker 1:So then, if she turned around and she live streaming the concert, maybe we'll see that in the background, because maybe he likes she also likes the band as well. Exactly so wifey's watching go oh really Exactly.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, she had a bro before he got home divorce papers in like play.
Speaker 1:Dude, not only that, she was canceling shit. Yeah, taking her name out of stuff. Took all the money, hell yeah.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah, because he's a dumbass.
Speaker 1:She's like that's it, I'm gone, I'm out.
Speaker 2:You don't do that shit and listen. So I know it's going to sound crazy, but you know there's just certain things that I think in a public place, if that's not your significant other, Right, you know what I'm saying. If that's not your partner, you know what I mean. You don't go out of the concert.
Speaker 1:You know, what probably pissed her off even more Is that he never did that with her in public. Oh, you just didn't do anything with this chick in public, you're right. You're right. Yeah, she's like.
Speaker 3:That's probably the cocky CEO mentality.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're right, that's exactly what it is. I can't even say different. I can do whatever I want. Yeah, I'm better than anybody.
Speaker 1:I'm in the club yeah, and you ain't in it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly that's.
Speaker 2:George Carlin Right Right.
Speaker 1:Exactly George Carlin yeah.
Speaker 2:The man, and it's no need for it.
Speaker 1:No, it's like it's gotten to the point where people are just blatant and they want to Like they don't care who's watching, right? Yeah, they absolutely just have total disrespect. Yes, or whatever it might be, even with the driving like we talked the last time about that.
Speaker 3:That's also included.
Speaker 2:That's all part of it, yeah, you know you get some nut job.
Speaker 1:Yeah, fucking out right and yeah, and because you think you're the, you know, yeah, it's just insane. Yeah, I just feel like people and maybe it's the current vibe that we have going on in this country, right fair enough in the world period, bro yeah I think so and people are just like you know what?
Speaker 2:I'm just gonna push my luck and see what I get now see what I can get away with. Right. So now for me, though, my thing is like you know and I'm trying to stay on these guys as a whole you know just that whole mentality with the couple is that you are, it's cheap. They always make the joke it's cheaper to keep her, okay, and you know this way you're not.
Speaker 2:As far as your wife is concerned, yeah, yeah, wife friend or husband, whoever it is, that's making more money in the relationship. Because when you get divorced, you know I get half. You know what I'm saying. And then why would you not then turn around? And if you're not happy with your significant other, then just leave.
Speaker 1:Don't do the cheating, or tell them hey, you're not. Why haven't we been intimate what's going on?
Speaker 3:If there's something happening, try to get start talking about it, at least try it for it, and then, once you realize that, okay, this is not even worth fighting for, you're out Now you don't have to give them that courtesy.
Speaker 2:of course that's depending on how you feel, of course, yeah, depending on how long it's been going, I'm in court.
Speaker 1:You're done. You're done Period.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and like you know, you know, the problem is people want to have their cake and eat it too.
Speaker 1:Right. Of course they want to have the benefits of having a great wife who takes care of them? Does whatever.
Speaker 3:Right, but they want a side chick too.
Speaker 2:So that's the problem, Right, Because not everybody is as lucky to be able to have their significant other, male or female. That's what I'm saying. Significant other that I can't take, you know, I could take my wife anywhere with me, you know what I'm saying, and she fits in everywhere. But there was women that I had dated in the past where I can't take to certain events.
Speaker 2:Yeah, or they're trying to keep up with looks, or they're trying to keep up with the Joneses and that then now it's just, it's too much, right, so that you know what I mean, because they can't have that like Sam Rockwell image of a perfect family and have like a young girl on their side. Yeah, have the hottie chick or whatever, or you can't just keep changing a new girl every 10 years.
Speaker 2:You know Right, because you know If you're single you could do that. If everybody knows you're single, then yeah, you could do that and change a girl every time you go to a different function. You know, what I'm saying as long as you don't work with her.
Speaker 3:So to the viewers and listeners out there. If you want that lifestyle, don't get fucking married.
Speaker 2:Right, exactly.
Speaker 1:Just stay single. Don't just stay single, just do whatever man, both men and women.
Speaker 3:Shit like. That is probably a career move because you know married people are Right.
Speaker 2:And that's what we're saying. They have to have that.
Speaker 1:It sucks when a marriage when a marriage goes bad Right. It sucks when that happens, right, especially if it ends that way. Right, because now you've already Did the ultimate thing that you shouldn't be doing.
Speaker 2:Period.
Speaker 1:Right, there's no excuse for you. How do you get the fuck out of that?
Speaker 3:You know, you don't.
Speaker 1:Right, you don't. It's just crazy, right? As far as the other memes, I want to go back to that because there was a lot of funny ones. Do you ever hear of Imagine Biscuit? We follow them on our page. They're you know, they're drag queens, right? Oh, yes, freaking hysterical, all right, and they did their own version of it on their page. So, if you go, just go look at it, dude, it is.
Speaker 3:So I don't know if raunchy is the right word to use but the way they did it was hysterical, the way she was man-grabbing him and everything grabbing her and she had like half her shirt open and got caught on the camera and they're like oh my God, you know how Of course typical drag queen, just totally exaggerating it to no end, which makes it even more hysterical.
Speaker 1:Right, I love them. So we have them on page, we watch them. So they did one as well. A bunch of people were doing them, just goofing on it and making up their own versions. Yeah, I'm sure you've seen a few of them as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they did the one with Luke's guy, I mean Obi-Wan. It's even funnier. You know what I mean, because of all the things you could do with it.
Speaker 1:I think because the people I think public realized when they saw that and they started goofing on it, they realized dumbass, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly that's what it is Dumbass, this is what you look like, uh-huh. Yeah so, right yeah so everybody has a way of this.
Speaker 2:They hit the deck hard too. My man dove like he was in the whole place, but it was too late yeah.
Speaker 1:They realized too late. Once they realized that they were on it, they were already on it too long for them to even try to dive out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They shouldn't have been that kind of huggy. Like he could have been standing behind her and had his hand in her back pocket, kind of thing, to just show the thing, and you know what the thing is too.
Speaker 3:I think that was the first couple they pointed on, so they weren't even like because, like you know, if they started with another couple they'd be like, oh, they're doing the kiss camera Act normal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, but they that's like the lot. Now we talk about the lotto. Right, we want to win the lotto. I think this lotto is for everything. Oh, yes. That is the lotto of being busted. Yeah, Like you hit the lotto.
Speaker 3:Yeah bro Not only were you the first people, you hit the mega million.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Absolutely Hell yeah, Like they should have gone and played the lotto.
Speaker 3:That is a powerful, a bad like law, hell yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, maybe they shouldn't have played the lotto. Yeah, no, no, no Like.
Speaker 3:I said I think the cameraman knew what they were doing.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah had to.
Speaker 3:Possibly.
Speaker 2:He may have said I have a hunch yeah.
Speaker 1:Or could you imagine you know Of?
Speaker 3:course you know what Right Could you imagine if the cameraman was like walking, you know, going to his camera room, and that fucking guy like bumped into him? Guy you fucking piece of crap and then he saw them and he was like I revamped you.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, so we'll talk later. You fucking awesome bro. Oh, wow, yeah.
Speaker 3:Maybe that's the case, but he doesn't want to get sued.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe that's the case, but he doesn't want to get sued.
Speaker 3:Yeah right, yeah he hasn't been public with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, can you imagine?
Speaker 2:What if the cameraman right was like his brother-in-law or some shit or a family member? That would have been great, right, that would be great, just like some crazy shit like that, right, or definitely an in-law though. Yeah, man, that would be like, yeah, you dumbass, like you really don't need to. I mean, so dig it, like for me. I know people, like everywhere, and people know my wife.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying, so there's no way, oh my gosh, you know?
Speaker 2:yeah, no dude, that's just.
Speaker 1:You can't go anywhere, I guarantee you, anywhere, I go with this man, someone. He knows somebody or somebody knows him Almost, almost.
Speaker 2:Majority of the time, almost, yeah, and, but that's the thing. So like I wouldn't be able to go anywhere where people wouldn't know me you know what I'm saying, or know the wife, or something like that. Or you know I go, and she's like why do we go everywhere? And you know she knows.
Speaker 3:You told that story, Louis. You were at the Palisades Mall one time. I was with him and his wife.
Speaker 1:We were racing the car. Yeah, I'm like this motherfucker. Yeah, everywhere we go.
Speaker 2:Everywhere. Yeah, my kids are like I work.
Speaker 3:We'd be working people you said the person that they ran into didn't even heard his, heard your voice and didn't even see you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then he would greet them like yo, yo motherfucker like or something crazy like that.
Speaker 2:He would say to them and they would turn around and be like ready, like they're gonna roll and shit and then they realize you know it's like oh, it's you, man, whatever yeah, dude, I'll tell you, I was in jersey shore and there were, and I was walking and I had seen a nephew, I had seen some other friends or whatever. And I'm thinking I'm far away from home, I'm not going to see anybody, and I hear Kenny Kenny, is that you? And I'm looking at my mic, who the hell is that? I said I knew it was you and it was a girl that I worked with was like how did she?
Speaker 1:she goes, I recognized your voice right now.
Speaker 2:That's crazy. Yeah, it was, oh my god. So, with that being the point, that's the point. Yeah, why? I wouldn't, you still could get anywhere I, I wouldn't want to be anywhere, go anywhere and and do that and get fucking caught like that and the feeling of doing it yeah, it's very uncomfortable, yeah, yeah definitely that's not a good feeling.
Speaker 1:You gotta lie about everything. You gotta make an excuse for something, this, that, the other thing, but that that comes with the territory you better know that going in because that's what your life is going to turn into it's not cool and and I don't know.
Speaker 2:But I don't, I don't, I don't think I can't say offhand, bro, that I've ever cheated. I, I really do. Now, of course, you know people are like oh well, there's different kinds of cheating. Whatever bro, like I, I just I don't think I've ever cheated like that. You know, I mean that. That. You know I I was single, I ran around, I did whatever and women knew, and you know that I was single or whatever, but I didn't have like 15 women because I didn't want it done to me.
Speaker 2:You know I'm saying I get that and and so, so then I always made it. That's one of my things. You know I try to undo to others this way. It's not done to me, right? You know what I'm saying and that's for real. You know, I'll punch you in the face and I'll take the fucking punch back. I'll take the punch, but to cheat or something like that, bro, that's like an emotion that I don't like fucking feeling.
Speaker 1:No it's a bad shit, yeah, yeah. And if it's happening to you, right, it's the same, you know. Now you have another set of feelings which is even worse, right, yeah, dude, because the worst is when they try to turn it around. Right, because of you. I learned it from watching you. Now I'm the bad guy right.
Speaker 2:So that gives you the reason.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, you're saying that makes it okay for you to do what you're doing. Yeah, no, it's disrespectful, bro. So it's just a fucking nightmare all the way, no matter what direction you're going.
Speaker 2:Because now you're going to try to save your ass. You know what I'm saying. It's like yeah, all right, whatever, hooker the fuck out of here, and you're not getting half, because I got it all on camera. You know what I'm saying. Right, it's just I don't know bro, I I just I think that that's an emotion. I know that's an emotion. I don't like it's happened to me.
Speaker 2:You know I'm saying, and I don't like it, yeah, you know what I'm saying and you know I will say know, I might have one chick out there that says, well, no, no, we broke up first. I know the chick I'm talking about, but you know we broke up first, you know, and we weren't getting back together and I had done me, and you know there's another one who thought I cheated.
Speaker 1:But the whole point with them was well, you didn't even wait that long, you didn't write it. What the fuck? I had already washed the sheets, so Right. So why do I have to have a time? You're going to get back together? Well, because you were thinking about it, bro.
Speaker 2:Right, you were thinking about it before we broke up, and that's why we broke up, because you were thinking about her. No, I was thinking about it the second.
Speaker 3:I broke up Right.
Speaker 1:Did I say that Yo do you guys see those videos, Do you guys see the on?
Speaker 3:I don't know why that's such a yeah, I know.
Speaker 1:Right, exactly.
Speaker 3:You know some people, when they get in a breakup, they're like you know what, fuck up, I'm going to see you know if anybody I hook up with you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Fuck it.
Speaker 3:I don't understand why people think like oh you.
Speaker 1:There's a time limit on it. No, he's waiting two years.
Speaker 3:I just had a bad breakup and you know some people are on the rebound.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. Yes, you know. Yeah, it's just insane bro. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:You're going to say it was just like a what no?
Speaker 2:no.
Speaker 3:Go ahead. Oh, no, no, no, you, we finished ours. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying, yeah we went for you, sorry.
Speaker 1:No, even the other way around. You know, if you're the one who cheated, that feeling is just as fucking bad. Right, Because if you're a good person and you realize what you did, it's going to hurt.
Speaker 3:Well, okay, you're going to feel shitty about yourself. Yeah, because if you're an asshole, you're not going to feel a goddamn thing. Right, right, exactly.
Speaker 2:But I have a question Right, okay, because you know me, I'm going Are all times when, whenever people cheat, is it every single time that somebody cheats that it's because of a bad relationship?
Speaker 1:with a significant other. The truth is that you fucking got lucky and you couldn't control yourself or something stupid like that.
Speaker 2:But seriously, you know before maybe how often do you really turn around and cheat. No, no, I'm saying but how often do you cheat without knowing that you were going to, that you were attracted to this person and that you know? You dated a couple of times. You went out and hung out a few times you know what I mean. Like we're not kids anymore and you know when. I say we're kids, but that we're not.
Speaker 2:At the bar we got a little bit so see, and yeah like hey, baby, how you doing, and she's like you know what I'm saying, like how that doesn't happen in I'm not saying in our age anymore, I just sound like the lights are way there you know, but you don't know. We're past those days?
Speaker 1:yeah, you would think, but life is life and regardless of age, people still do it oh yeah, no, no, I'm just saying the instances in which to where you would cheat probably, yeah, I think your younger years it. You know, if you're that selfish and you're only thinking about yourself, and that's usually what it is because, right exactly, at a club, at a bar and you obviously weren't thinking about your wife or you yeah whoever you were with right. So that's definitely a selfish move, but if you're a good person.
Speaker 3:But what I was saying earlier, if you're a good person.
Speaker 1:But what I was saying earlier, if you're a good person not that it gives you an excuse that you did it but if you feel pain for it, then you deserve to feel the pain that you're feeling, because obviously you shouldn't. It didn't go the way. What I'm saying is, sometimes people can do that and do something. They're not supposed to, and after they did it, regret that they did it Right. So the regret.
Speaker 2:So how long does the regret last? That's why I started to choke.
Speaker 1:It depends on how you grieve, because you know I'm like oh my.
Speaker 2:God. I did it oh, no All right, I'm over it.
Speaker 3:Okay, I'm over it.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. I'm done. I'm saying, well, she did. No, I'm sorry, damn, that's what she said.
Speaker 3:My bad.
Speaker 1:No, I know what you're saying, when you think about the whole situation, it's just like there's no win situation that you're going to get.
Speaker 2:It's a no win situation is really what comes down to it.
Speaker 1:Exactly, no matter what you try to do, you probably gonna get. Yeah, it's a no-win situation. It's really what it comes down, exactly, no matter what you try to do, how you, you probably can get away with it for a very long fucking time, right, it's going to take that one time, at that, one moment that boom, you're busted and that's it. And then, personally, the longer the worse. Right, because there's people that are habitual cheaters right there. People are like that.
Speaker 2:Yes, the people are like that yeah, and they don't because they've gotten away with it, because they'll even you know they'll even get divorced and get into another relationship. Start cheating in the new relationship Like they don't Like, then why do it? Why fucking do it?
Speaker 3:Like, why get married or be like that? Because I think people, you know there's a it's a reality In a new relationship. There's a reality In a new relationship. There's a certain thrill you have Right, and I think people chase the thrill of a new relationship.
Speaker 2:Okay, you know the honeymoon phase people love, people chase.
Speaker 3:But, like the thing is, it's a phase in a relationship, Right, All relationships go through a honeymoon phase where you're all over each other. Mm-hmm, you got those. You know the butterflies in your chest, feeling Like I think people get addicted to that and they chase it. Damn, that's good.
Speaker 2:Tom, I really think that's my, that's something, because I never would have he sounded like what's his name?
Speaker 1:Put a little tree over here.
Speaker 2:Bob Ross. He sounded like Bob Ross. Right here we'll just put a mountain of trees.
Speaker 3:No, I'm sorry bro, I think people chase that, of course we do.
Speaker 2:I never thought about that, bro. Like all jokes aside, I never thought of that. It's not about.
Speaker 1:But you have to be strong enough and smart enough not to respond to it.
Speaker 3:The sex part is only like that much. I think it's that thrill and they chase it.
Speaker 1:That makes sense, because you know, a new relationship. We're in a new relationship. It's such an exciting time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're actually buying flowers.
Speaker 3:Just habitually keep doing that. It's like, all right, let's keep doing this, all right, let's just fade out. Oh, go to another one. Yeah, I, I never thought about that dude? I never thought about that. That was deep, that was deep.
Speaker 2:I'll fucking know, baby, that was crazy.
Speaker 3:But if you want that? Just stay single. But, people like the stability of it. I think that's the other thing too, the other side, I think people like the stability of a marriage, but they want to fuck around.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they want to chase that high Because they want to chase that high, think that's what it is. I think they want the stability of marriage. Yeah, they want, they want a partner, you know. So like they get, like they're getting the best of both worlds, like they want a partner who's stable and who you know is like their companion, but then they want, they want to chase that. Yeah, yeah, you know, I, I get it, bro. I think that's what it is. I think it's an addiction I never even thought about.
Speaker 2:I think it's an addiction. I never even thought about it, I think it's an addiction.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay, I think cheating is an addiction. I think for people who basically cheat, they're addicted to cheating.
Speaker 1:They're addicted to the thrill of a new relationship. Do you think that it gives the other person permission to do what they want now because of what happened? Well, I'm not saying it gives them permission.
Speaker 2:No, no, no. The other one, the one that she cheated on the one that was cheated on. Yeah, like, oh, you did it, I could do it too.
Speaker 1:No, you just cheated on me. Okay, fine, I'm going to cheat on you and then you're going to have to sit on that, but you know what I'm fucking your friend.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that's what open marriage.
Speaker 1:Yeah, true, Well, yeah, because then you have the, you know, people couples who actually like to have like group sex or they like to switch people and do all that. That's the upside down pineapple on the cruise ship.
Speaker 2:Right, exactly.
Speaker 1:Or anywhere.
Speaker 3:It could be anywhere, by the way, for anybody asking about the upside down pineapple that is like a swinger, like code.
Speaker 2:Right, there's an upside not that we know anything about.
Speaker 1:No. So I heard I don't know nothing. I saw it in the tv show that one time no, I saw it in something I don't remember what it was.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and that's like oh okay but, yeah, so you know that's the thing too, it's like.
Speaker 1:But then if you were both?
Speaker 3:habitual right, yeah, and you couple up, maybe honest with each other. Be like I I want to have an open marriage and like some people do that and some people have those holy shit.
Speaker 1:I want the same thing. I just didn't think you wanted it. Yeah, like your brother's, so high. You're fucking kidding me right now. And then you know there's some people. I wanted your dad to pay me the other night and then just kidding.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry and then there's people that get the whole polyamory of relationships.
Speaker 2:I don't know how that works like they have
Speaker 3:like we're, like they have multiple partners that know about each other and that's like, that's polygamy.
Speaker 2:That whole situation is just but well the difference.
Speaker 3:Polyamory means not marriage.
Speaker 2:I guess, if you oh oh oh.
Speaker 3:Polygamy means marriage right.
Speaker 2:Oligomy means marriage Right.
Speaker 3:But, like you know, that's the only difference. Wait, is that what it is that they?
Speaker 2:do. That's the sister wife.
Speaker 3:Oligomy is like. Well, I don't think they can legally marry, that's what I'm saying, so it's polyamory with one marriage.
Speaker 1:But there is only one Right, because you're only allowed one legal marriage? Yeah, and you become like a pervert, don't we have a Mormons? Yeah, am I wrong?
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, no, you're right, but I can't remember where it is. Well, I know the Mormons do that.
Speaker 3:And also I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1:Why do they get away with?
Speaker 3:this, but it's always like wealthy people, it's like a sign of wealth Because they thought.
Speaker 2:No, no, no.
Speaker 3:I know, I think.
Speaker 1:It's the religion.
Speaker 3:Correct me if I'm wrong. Certain cultures I know, certain Buddhist cultures or Asian cultures.
Speaker 1:I think you could go far back to any culture at some point. That did that. I'm sure they all did, but yeah, I don't know right, listen, I'm gonna say this.
Speaker 2:It's a hard enough time dealing with just one wife that there's no.
Speaker 3:And not knocking women, it's not.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I'm just saying like we're lucky. I wouldn't want to turn around and have like three wives, like. I make jokes about it sometimes People say what do you want? I'm like a harem, I want money, I want that fancy car. That's my joke. I do that as a funny, but no way on God's green earth I wouldn't want that because they make it work. I mean, they have a whole reality show on it, but yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah they did Sister wives. Yeah, fuck that.
Speaker 2:It's just an excuse, so you can fuck somebody else Exactly.
Speaker 1:No, you're right.
Speaker 3:The most infamous terrorist of all times is bin Laden.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he had a half of the wives.
Speaker 3:I think they, I think.
Speaker 1:How many did he have?
Speaker 3:No, I mean his father had multiple wives and they had this giant family.
Speaker 2:I've never, seen the family picture of the Bin Ladens. It was like the family 30s. But then don't the didn't Manson have a bunch of chicks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, look, they have. There's a site that we have, that we follow, where people are following their ex, their girlfriend or their wife and they're cheating on them. They bust them, right, and they bust them, oh, cheaters.
Speaker 3:Yeah, cheaters, but it's like they go and they fight and they have pictures.
Speaker 1:No, I don't know him.
Speaker 2:What are you talking about?
Speaker 1:I got this or vice versa.
Speaker 2:No, no, not what you thought, it was buddy. Okay, he was touching your tonsils. Can you tell me no?
Speaker 1:One guy gave a girl I don't know if it was his wife or his girlfriend, but he packed, he wrapped the stuff she already had and he gave it to her to unwrap. She didn't know that. So she goes what are you doing? This is my stuff, I already know my stuff. He goes that's right, get the fuck out.
Speaker 2:Oh, I know what you're talking about. He put it in a present.
Speaker 1:He wrapped it up as a present.
Speaker 2:You seen that shit? You ever seen that one, Tom? Yeah, the dude had busted him, Dude.
Speaker 1:I was like shit, my man.
Speaker 3:That the white hat come out, oh my.
Speaker 2:God, what's this Right, that shit he put in the car.
Speaker 1:I don't know, was he all the way around?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's right. Get the fuck out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, here's your shit. You got me a new suitcase, that's right.
Speaker 3:Yep, and all your shit is. That's it. I can see him rapping. I thought you were going to say like unwrapped photos of a private investigator taking pictures.
Speaker 2:Oh, no, no, no.
Speaker 3:That would be another. This was done.
Speaker 1:I've seen it more than once, where guys have done this, where they actually people have done this where there's male and female, but it seems like mostly male for some reason. Like that, busta Wives, the Busta Wives, and then they do that to him.
Speaker 2:And I'm like get the fuck out, yep, you know, and it's like that's great.
Speaker 1:Well, back in the day and I play stupid Like I don't know. Yeah, but you met him. Like they try to pull that bullshit.
Speaker 2:Get the fuck out. Yeah, no, no, there was a song back in. I saw you and him walking in the rain.
Speaker 1:I love that song.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you were holding hands and I'll never be the same. The song is freaking fire. It's because his girlfriend she got up and she went out to go hang out with the next guy and he busted them. He was standing in the doorway In the video. He was standing in the doorway.
Speaker 1:Whatever I love that song, I can't believe it. Thank you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're welcome. Yeah, it's a great song. You listen to it. You'll be like, nah, I love it, yeah, but I mean you know so with that, because we're just about done, I just say for me personally don't cheat. If you're going to cheat, just do what you do. Don't hurt other people and I've always said that too. Don't hurt your spouse, no matter what. You guys were there through thick and thin and whatever else. Now, of course, if it is an abusive relationship, then hell yeah, run for the fucking hills. You know what I'm saying. But if you guys have been together 10, 15 years or whatever, Think before you react.
Speaker 1:Take a step back a minute and think of what is this going to do for me in the long run.
Speaker 3:So hopefully if you're smart enough, you do that great If not.
Speaker 1:You're going to have to go through it and figure it out the hard way.
Speaker 3:Right, exactly, so cheating is a symptom of an unhappy yeah, right. So if you're wanting to cheat, then it's time to Right.
Speaker 1:You got to go, it's time to move on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's just insane.
Speaker 3:Just like again, and I've said this a dozen times- Either work things out or move on One or the other.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly yeah, and if you feel like you need to move on, you know think of your kids, think of the family, think of your friends, think of the people that are around you. You know what I'm saying. It just sucks. You know what I mean. But you know, with that, love each other, love peace and hair grease Live long and prosper and stay weird yeah.
