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Hemp vs. The World: Nature's Sustainable Giant
Beyond the familiar 420 connections, hemp holds revolutionary potential as a sustainable powerhouse with bamboo as its environmental partner. Our deep dive reveals how these two plants could transform our approach to construction, clothing, and everyday products while saving our planet in the process.
Hemp grows rapidly with minimal resources, naturally resists pests, absorbs carbon dioxide, and yields more fiber per acre than cotton or trees. What's stopping us from embracing this miracle plant? We explore the economics, practicalities, and surprising applications – from hempcrete buildings that regulate moisture and resist fire to sustainable textiles that improve with wear.
Bamboo's credentials are equally impressive, with some species growing three feet daily and producing 35% more oxygen than trees. We examine how architects in Hong Kong have used bamboo scaffolding to build skyscrapers for centuries and how this ancient knowledge might provide solutions to modern environmental challenges.
The conversation takes fascinating turns as we discuss how these materials could address climate-vulnerable regions by creating more resilient structures, potentially replace environmentally harmful plastics, and complement other green technologies like solar power and geothermal energy. While initial costs may be higher, the long-term benefits for both pocketbooks and the planet make a compelling case for change.
Ready to rethink what's possible? Join us as we imagine a future where working with nature's abundant offerings creates truly sustainable solutions for generations to come. The revolution isn't just growing – it's growing fast.
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Speaker 2:great.
Speaker 1:So we're here for another podcast. Yes, another fantastic podcast 420 is upon us and we decided to do A two-parter, A two-parter. Oh yeah, is it a two-parter In a sense? Yeah, Okay. Because hemp is involved. Yes, so is bamboo, dude bamboo.
Speaker 3:I don't know why that Shit. Bamboo for me is like relaxing Can be. Yeah, like just looking at the bamboo forest, kind of stuff. Yeah, it does look nice, it's a nice scenic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for me, I like bamboo. A lot of people hate bamboo. Yeah, Like they not hate it for its aesthetic, but they're like oh, it's like oh, if you have bamboo growing hard, you can't get rid of it.
Speaker 1:It grows, like it will grow, and so will hemp yeah well, so sidebar, and that's the whole idea of it because yeah is it so abundant?
Speaker 3:abundant, and you can use it for almost they, just pretty much things for different things, a little bit, I guess, say the sidebar little, one of those things that I had learned a long time ago. You know totally useless facts, I guess, but when they used to capture people, when they used to fight in asia and would capture people to torture them, they would lay them down on the sprouts of the bamboo and leave them there and the bamboo would literally grow through their bodies. Oh, come on.
Speaker 1:That's serious. No lie bro. That's crazy man.
Speaker 3:That was the torture stuff.
Speaker 1:That's wrong.
Speaker 3:That's what we need to know, now I'm not speaking, fuck you. And then like, oh yeah, okay, hold that. And then you start to feel it go through you and it would just end up like growing right through them because the bamboo shoots are so strong. God, that is sick yeah.
Speaker 1:Isn't that? Crazy though that is, that would be a cool horror movie, though Something in a horror movie.
Speaker 3:It was reality?
Speaker 1:I know no, but I'm saying you'd have to do it where you found someone that that happened to. Right, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, damn you know what I'm telling you, man?
Speaker 3:It's cool, right, just a little dumb shit that I know. Yeah, that's just crazy it was on mini busters and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:They say, like I said, it grows quickly. The hemp grows quickly and it doesn't require a lot of water Right. Less than what than cotton, Naturally pest resistant.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, so it needs fewer pesticides. Well, so where does the hemp come from? Cleans the soil. I'm not even trying to pronounce that word. I'm sorry ladies and gentlemen, absorb heavy metals, so more CO2 than most plants per acre. Okay, this is hemp Yields more fiber per acre than cotton or trees.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's amazing. That's what I'm saying. Just use that. Why are we not using hemp instead for paper and stuff?
Speaker 1:Because it's cheap and it's, you would think, because it is a bundle full.
Speaker 2:You would just you can grow it anywhere.
Speaker 1:You know, and it grows fast and you know what that was?
Speaker 2:one of our like cash crops when our country was a founding country was hemp. Yes, so the rope because it was very hemp, is very good rope, right. I mean, it's still used today for rope, right, it is still used today for rope. But that's usually when you see cloth rope, that's him usually.
Speaker 1:You know it's very that basket weavy right, yeah, that just boggles the mind like you can use this, but why don't you use this? Why do we have to use this that has all these chemicals in it and things that?
Speaker 3:you like to process and everything what they call forever chemicals now is what they're saying. They're stuck with you regardless during your body already yeah, and that's the crazy part, because that's the money part, because of having that to grow the trees over again, whatever they probably figuring that making the hemp products well, they lose money, but they would sell so much they they would hope that the hemp would grow fast enough for them to freaking make the money they can.
Speaker 3:Well, it's the same thing like with the hemp clothes. The hemp clothes clothes is more like a linen yeah, you know what I'm saying. So it's not even like the jeans that is going to be warmer. So the hemp clothing would work, you know, in warmer climates.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I think you can make anything out of this stuff now pretty much.
Speaker 2:The only problem with the hemp clothing is it's not as soft as cotton. I think that might be the problem. I don't think you can use it for like everything right, Isn't it like a grainier?
Speaker 3:What's that hemp? Yeah, so like making hemp clothes, if that would be beneficial.
Speaker 1:Here we go. So sustainable jobs. Hemp and bamboo industries create jobs in framing, processing, construction, textiles, paper, biodegradable plastics, versatile both can be used for clothing, food, paper, biofuel, construction materials like hempcrete and even plastics. Low maintenance farming. Low import input costs for water, pesticides, fertilizers, compared to crops like cotton, trees used for lumber and paper there you go.
Speaker 1:You don't have to cut down trees If you don't have to cut down trees just fucking grow new shit, right, exactly, I hate it. I got to be honest with you. When I see a tree cut down and they're doing construction on the side of the road, like they're doing in Middletown, right, I hate it. It's like they just tore them down just to put something there, for whatever reason, right, maybe it's a good reason, but still it's like trees, man.
Speaker 3:Yeah. You know, yeah, and I feel you because, like even across the street from one of our buildings that they just started, they're getting ready to start building soon, really, yeah, so yeah, no, I feel you, but like you were saying, tom hemp, I'm sorry. Yeah, hemp tends to be more expensive and less readily available than like cotton. Yeah, so then it doesn't, it's not as so it would cost more. So the hemp is more expensive than the cotton.
Speaker 2:Is it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, but it's so much better for the environment. Yeah, again so either way it works out it's.
Speaker 3:That's where the thing comes in. So it's cheaper, as far as you know, to get it, to make it and what not, but you know, financially it does all this stuff you know, it's just you know bamboo fabrics are breathable right antimicrobial right UV resistant and biodegradable food hemp seeds are highly nutritious, rich in protein, omega-3s and fiber.
Speaker 2:I've gotten a lot of. I had a lot of cereals that have hemp seed, Like I used to have this hemp seed granola cereal Good one.
Speaker 1:But both these things grow in abundance. That's the whole point. You're getting it, it's gonna. If you manufactured it and you grew it, you would have it all the time. You know what I'm saying. It's just a matter of I guess people are greedy. They'd rather put shit in chemicals and food and put papers to make their money rather than doing the right thing. But I get it.
Speaker 3:I understand what you're saying, right, because I mean as far as the difference between cotton and hemp, so that then hemp fabric can be slightly stiffer and more textured than cotton, though it's it softens with use, right?
Speaker 3:So that then you know when you first buy it, people that have, you know, like sensory issues or they just don't like the way that it feels on their skin, you know they may not. You know they're going to wash it 10 times before they use it. You know before they actually wear it on a regular basis and stuff like that. So you know before they actually wear it on a regular basis and stuff like that. So you know it's. I guess it just depends on the person you know. But at the same time I think for me and I'm going to go along with what you're saying, luke it is worthwhile because it's cheaper and whatnot, because it'd be the same thing if you're wearing silk. You know polyester, and if you can grow it at will, and if you can grow it at will and you know no big deal, you know like, almost like, well, no, because you don't have to.
Speaker 1:Environmentally safe. Yeah, you know, it's all of the above. Yeah, you're getting more benefit out of it for your buck that way I think yeah, it makes perfect sense.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but they're not there yet Now you said that it was stronger than it was. It was good enough to use for construction. Yeah, so that then, even with that.
Speaker 1:Hempcrete, I guess it was called hempcrete Right, really.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's crazy, dude. Can you imagine, yep, now when you turn around and you use it in a building?
Speaker 1:Yeah, hempcrete Versus how both can be used in clothing, food paper, biofuel, construction materials like hempcrete and even plastics. Yeah, see, so then it will be really groovy. So they're mixing it with other stuff too, yeah.
Speaker 3:You would still need the wood for the framing of a building, or metal you know, steel or whatever for the frame.
Speaker 1:I don't know what you're getting at.
Speaker 3:I'm saying no, you said like the hempcrete, so it's more like the concrete to build the, you know, put the outside of the of the building, or like even down south, so like down south, or the lay brick, or whatever you're going to do.
Speaker 1:I guess it depends on what you're using, right?
Speaker 3:And that's what I'm saying. But you would use, they'll still have to use wood for the framing because the hemp is for the concrete part, like hempc cementing.
Speaker 1:Maybe use the block or whatever. Yeah, the block. I'm sorry, right, and like the brick, or whatever.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so you know, but it would still be a good mix and you know, and if it's more not if it's reading here that it is it's stronger, that then it would probably work better in down in. You know, hurricane alley or tornado alley in the United States, and you tornado alley, like in the united states, and you know for houses and huts and stuff like that to be worth, it would stay up, it wouldn't be knocked down or whatever. You know in those places that they have the, the wild um weather, right. So, like you know, so, like I said, tornado alley in the midwest, right. So then if you build the houses out of the hempcrete, right, it'll probably be stronger right, you know well, they're building stuff, that's, that's so.
Speaker 3:And so you see the, the 3d printers they have now that do with the concrete, right, yeah yeah right it's crazy so then if you use hempcrete right instead of just the regular, say, plastics or whatever, the 3d yeah, if it's there.
Speaker 1:And it's abundant and you? Can get it, it will I mean and, honestly, when you think about it, that's what it was there for. When you think about it, yeah right, it's not like you're hurting anything yeah, right, and, like you said, because you can, there's more of it.
Speaker 3:You can build it up more right.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah, safe environment, yeah you know it helps your future generations. You go in that direction. It's, it's a. It's a totally different story yeah and you would think so anyway.
Speaker 3:Well, I'm not going to lie, bro, until you brought it to us, you know. Do you say you wanted to do the episode on this? Well, actually, the both of you guys killed it with the ideas for for the, the weed and the hemp. I'm not even going to make dip, like I'll. I'll, like I'm think about how these things can help us.
Speaker 1:Oh, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 3:You know, I said the last couple of episodes well, not the last couple, but the episodes that we've done as far as what, the medicinal benefits for marijuana, you know now, the hemp coming off of the plant, you and what you did on the last episode, I'm like what? And I said, and me reading on it, I'm like no way, like there's just, I never thought that there would be this many things that hemp would be used for. Yeah, it's crazy. Or could be used for, that it's worthwhile. You know, like I said, I'm reading here a natural moisture regulation. Hempcrete is breathable, allowing moisture to move through the walls, preventing mold and dampness. So, again, if we're building out of that instead of concrete in your basements, you wouldn't have those kind of leaks in your basement, maybe, maybe not.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying? It's like holy shit. So the person who's doing it knows what he's doing. Yeah.
Speaker 3:You know, pest and fire resistant Hempcrete is naturally resistant to pests and rot and it has a high fire rating, so it's like it's another one too.
Speaker 1:So that's the safety thing right there. Yeah, the burn rate, I think, on some of this stuff that they're coming out with now is like it doesn't burn. It takes so much for it to get to that point. But that stuff's expensive. But that's the future and that's the direction you want to go in, right when you think about it.
Speaker 3:But it would only be expensive because nobody knows the process.
Speaker 1:Once it starts to pick it up, it'll take off Right. Just think about it, bro.
Speaker 3:Back in how many years ago was it that the Plasma TV came out? It was like oh my God, it's $10,000 for this flat screen. It's like holy Jesus, what the hell is going on.
Speaker 1:And now you go to Money World.
Speaker 3:And you're paying, you know, for 55 inch you're paying 300 bucks on a five inch. And you're like what?
Speaker 1:It's true, you're like right now I feel like thing. It was with the computers when they first started coming out, exactly like an 80 inch for, like you know, gram you only know, you only knew somebody who had a computer and then next year, you know, everybody was getting one. Yeah, exactly, you know you're going to these shows and you were getting them built right doing all this stuff you know that crazy shit.
Speaker 3:Look, indoor air quality. Hemp's natural properties help purify the air, removing dust and bacteria. Hello, can't be that. Allergies, that it can help deal with allergies. You're looking at that. It can help deal with the asthma. You know what I'm saying, bro, pet dander, you know. So, like I said, I'm allergic to pets. So then I mean your puppies are hypothergenic and such for me or whatever. But then you go to somebody's house and it might even help with you know, all of that that's going on in the house. I that that's going on in the house. I mean, dude, that's freaking crazy to me. But then now here's where the you know the kick in the nuts is potential for higher initial costs. While the long-term costs of hemp building materials can be lower due to energy efficiency and durability, the initial price point might be higher than traditional materials. Yeah, but you know what? But in the long run.
Speaker 1:look what you'll get.
Speaker 3:Exactly Right, but in the long run.
Speaker 1:Look what you'll get Right and you're going to make out bigger than you did when you make that that purchase for the concrete. Yeah, you'll, you'll pay that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know what I mean, right? So, look, you got the uses of hemp and construction. So you got the hempcrete used for the walls and insulation. Hemp insulation available for bat and bats and rolls. You know panels and stuff, hemp-free blocks, easy to use and assemble in the speed of construction process. Like we were saying before, the roofing can be used for roofing due to its moisture resistance and pest resistance. Hello, right, that, right, there speaks volumes. Yeah, fibers can be hemp, fibers can be woven into durable carpets and furnishings for textiles. Nice, so you know I mean shit, bro. This is that's insane. Just this one plant that would be able to again, like you said, just be so much better for the environment, because if it, grows randomly, I mean, if you can get it to and it just grows in abundance, yeah and that's, and it grows fast, Right?
Speaker 1:So I don't I understand what you're saying as far as the price is concerned. I think You're making out in the long run versus the right away in. You step into it, You're going to. In the long run, you're going to make out for it for sure. Because you're going to get more out of it than you did what you paid into it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but that was the same thing that they say or that is being said about. Like solar power, you know, you get the panels, whether it's on your roof or your backyard or wherever you're putting it. The initial cost is like, oh the cow, it's bananas, but it'll pay off on the other end because you're not paying that crazy electric bill. You know what I'm saying? Right, right, right. So same idea with the hemp, I guess again it's the investment. Right, exactly, it's the investment. That's the word.
Speaker 1:I'm glad you said that, because it was like yeah, and my house is perfect because the sun comes right over the top of the back of my house.
Speaker 2:Yeah, To the front, like right over, you've got a good setup for it, yeah.
Speaker 1:I would only need it on the backside of the house, right.
Speaker 2:Because it's their only thing? Or did they stop doing that? Don't they like pay for the roof or something to be done, or something?
Speaker 1:My roof was already done.
Speaker 3:I already have new shingles.
Speaker 1:I have new shingles on my roof already.
Speaker 3:No, no, Don't you have to reinforce it to hold the weight of the solar panels. They have to go in and inspect the roof to see.
Speaker 1:Okay, this is what's going on in your roof? We're going to need to do ABC and D, then they're going to have to install, probably like cross beams or whatever knowing where it's going to fall out. So they knew that when they screwed into the roof they were catching. Yeah, Because they got to tie into whatever's inside the roof.
Speaker 2:Sometimes they'll replace your roof for you, though, really yeah.
Speaker 3:But doesn't have to, don't you have to?
Speaker 2:well, I don't know I don't want to do that Am.
Speaker 3:I going to bring a new fucking roof. Yeah, you don't want to do that, right? Well, you don't need that yet the installation.
Speaker 1:Hell, that happened to me. Oh. And then the insurance. People were running around storm chasers and they would you know. Oh, we're going to do your roof and this that and the other thing, and then we wound up.
Speaker 1:It was yeah, it was a whole big schmeal. That's crazy, but think about it, though. Same thing with like textiles, right? Yeah, they say the most thing that shouldn't be in a landfill not that it should be in a landfill, but most of all, is clothing, right, you know, like blankets, anything like that shouldn't be in it because it takes forever for it to break down. It's not good, right? Rather, recycle it. But they can take that type of fabric and break it down and then reuse it again.
Speaker 2:That can be recycled for different stuff.
Speaker 1:You can.
Speaker 2:Especially.
Speaker 3:I mean the number one thing is like filling, like on like pillows and throw pillows.
Speaker 1:Couch cushion right?
Speaker 3:sure, I didn't even think of that absolutely yep, dude, that's, that's just insane, I think, for me only because of the way I think and the conversation that we've had yeah, exactly no and the v not to say but the vegan part of it, too, is now you're not using animals.
Speaker 1:You're using whatever you have in abundance, because you have so much of it now Like the same with the plastics. You can use that shit too to do that and make hard benches and do all this other stuff.
Speaker 2:Well, the recycled plastics.
Speaker 1:Right, right, they can melt all that shit down. I don't believe it, man. Yeah, bro, if we but I'm saying that that's why not go that direction.
Speaker 3:That's the way to go. I mean, we're going to burn it down. Well, there's not even the burn it down part, Just like you said earlier. Just all that shit that's in the landfills. You know what I mean? What's the name of the garbage that's floating in the ocean? You?
Speaker 1:mean all the plastic. Yeah, the Pacific Garbage Patch, yeah, that shit. It's heartbreaking. Man Think about this. When you see it, it's just like heartbreaking.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is heartbreaking, but it's so freaking huge, Aren't some people cleaning that up and they're using it for recycling Right to recycle.
Speaker 3:But we should be able to go in there, scoop the whole shit up there are people that do that stuff, for sure. Right, not little at a time. They I mean for me go in there and scoop that whole shit over, get it too close to the land and then just take it out every day, you know and just redo the plastic.
Speaker 1:I know that they're definitely doing. Some people are definitely working to get that stuff out of there for sure.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because I mean what? Now they're using holy cow finding fish and all that stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, finding fish in there and all that stuff. They have plastics in them Right. No, it's crazy.
Speaker 3:Yep Wild, the microplastics and all that shit that's everywhere and whatnot. So I mean you know the fish are eating at it because it's starting to break down little by little, or other fish just nipping at it so it breaks the little plastic off and then like finding out that the color plastic bottles aren't good for us to even be drinking out of. So that's why even now, some of the soda companies have changed their bottles from the colors to the clear.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there weren't many, though. Like Sprite is clear, there it is Sprite's on the clear bottle. That's why Because come to find out that the dye is in there Mountain Dew, mellow, yellow, right they all have stuff.
Speaker 1:You're right. Yeah, I know All of them. It's crazy, yeah, but isn't certain sodas green as well?
Speaker 3:Some ginger ales certain ginger ales, right Well, but the ginger ale bottles it's like a brown color.
Speaker 1:Or green.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, I'm talking about the ginger ale itself, the actual liquid, not the bottle. So now they're making them with a bottle. That's just now clear, because those colors, the color dyes were harmful.
Speaker 1:The same thing that we were talking about before and no one thought about that because they associated it with glass because, the color glass has nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2:It doesn't throw Exactly.
Speaker 3:And that's what it was, because the glass breaks, so they didn't want people getting hit in the head with the glass bottle you know, or a glass bottle breaking somewhere.
Speaker 2:That's why they started using those colors though, because Sprite used to probably come in a green glass bottle. It did.
Speaker 3:It came in a green glass bottle, so did 7-Up, and 7-Up came in that other. Yep, all that stuff came in colored glass.
Speaker 2:So they just continued it. They're like, oh, we want green Right exactly and keep it in there.
Speaker 3:And it was cheaper to do the plastic than it was to keep making the glasses Right Glasses are much better. Right, so they started to recycle the bottles. So they would desanitize the bottles and then refill them and put new caps on them and put them back into circulation. Did you know that? I didn't know that, yeah, did.
Speaker 1:Did they really do that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What did they clean them properly? I? Mean, I don't have a problem with that If they recycle them the proper way and then they can reuse them. Sure, do that. I don't have a problem with that.
Speaker 2:That's better than what they do now, because, like now, it's either like if you live in, like in New Jersey, like they collect the recycling Right.
Speaker 3:It just gets broken up, and then I know they have the things where it shreds the glass, and yeah, but so what they're doing is that they you know you get the money back for the. Yeah, you do that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the five cent refunds yeah so you, they turn around and they get all the plastics, they shred it or put it in the compactor, right in the baler, they wrap it all up and then they send it out to get re, to get recycled for whatever it is that they're going to use it for and whatnot, and then, you know, put into other things. Now, that's the other thing too. For certain things, the plastics, certain color plastics, can't be recycled. Certain kinds of plastic bottles cannot be recycled. So then they need to stop making those bottles, and that's what the idea is.
Speaker 3:So now, because our show is about hemp, that now if we have the hemp material and we can make, you know, different cups, different bottles, reusable things, like we have a water fountain at work where you take your water bottle and you put it up, you know, in the fountain and it fills up your can, your reusable water bottle Nice, as opposed to using or buying. You know a case of water, you know what I'm saying. Like, I drink filtered water at home. I have the filter pitcher with the filter, yes, sort of, and you know that's where I pour my water out of, you know. So then, if they do things like that, if hemp can do shit like that, and bamboo.
Speaker 1:And there you go, there you go. Don't forget about bamboo. Bamboo is all you could. That should grow.
Speaker 3:Yeah, One day you could use bamboo as a cup, man. That would be cool, you know, because then think of how cool that would look. A bamboo cup, a bamboo cup. I'm sure you can get it. Yeah, that would be freaking awesome, man, you know. But again, what else can we use?
Speaker 1:That's just growing plant on earth. Some species grow three feet per day, regrows after harvesting without needing replanting, unlike trees, requires no pesticides and very little water, produces 35% more oxygen than trees and absorbs more CO2. I mean I mentioned this earlier Helps prevent soil erosion due to its dense roots, its dense root system. So there you go. Now you're helping the planet, yeah, same time, and you can use it for utensils and you're not hurting it. It'll grow. Yeah, cut it down. It's like what's that plant that comes back every year? Hostas.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Hostas come back every year. Oh, hostas Right, they'll go. Fall comes, they shrivel down, you cut them down, you bring them to the ground right. Next year they come right back up.
Speaker 3:No problem. So look, bamboo is tough and durable. There are a ton of places you can buy bamboo cups online, so yeah, you can even use a bamboo for a cup.
Speaker 1:Sure Hello.
Speaker 3:Hello, that bamboo for a cup, sure, hello, hello, that's not cool. No, that is. I mean, I guess listen.
Speaker 1:I guess it depends on your preference, but you know, I think if at some point in the future they go in the right direction, as far as not worrying about the money so much but looking to take care of the people that they're serving and the cool part about bamboo is the wood.
Speaker 2:You know it makes you make wood. It makes it's. You know the bigger ones are used for like, not lumber for construction but wood for like they make scaffolds out of them.
Speaker 1:Did you ever see? I don't know what country it's in, but they use scaffold. They make scaffolds out of bamboo and build fucking buildings.
Speaker 2:I've seen things I didn't know about that I'm going to look that up. I've seen things like you know cutting boards and like hangers.
Speaker 3:Right, yeah, and so you do all those things? Yeah, I was saying because you were looking it up, so I had already looked it up, so I knew you wanted to read off of it. That's what I'm saying. No, I can't, I'm sorry, I know how my glasses are. So, yeah, you can build with bamboo. It is versatile and sustainable material. A versatile and sustainable material right that can be used for a whole range of structures, from simple shelters to complex buildings. Bamboo is strong, grows rapidly and is resistant to pests moisture we know that same as the hemp, making a viable alternative to traditional building materials like wood. So then you can use the wood actually instead of I'm sorry, you can use the bamboo instead of the wood. Right, there it is, and that it'll be as strong.
Speaker 3:So now, if you're using, you don't have to cut down the trees you don't have to cut down the trees I said, like you said, the bamboo grows bigger and faster, whatever. So then now you use the hemp crete for like the walls and you use the bamboo for the framing. Now you got yourself a super, a super sustainable house, and you know what I mean. If that's not like you said and like we were talking about before on in the long run eco-friendly super eco-friendly, but it's it's it's beneficial to the environment and to your pockets in the long run. Right, and then you can.
Speaker 1:I think it's to the environment and to your pockets in the long run.
Speaker 2:Right, and then you can use geothermal Just based on what we're Right, there you go. You know geothermal. That's a great thing too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so all that stuff is great, you know, and then hopefully we'll get out of our own fucking way. Right, me may not be around to see it. Yeah, it might be just at the beginning of it before we depart wonderful planet, I'm going to be a cyborg, you know. It'll be interesting if, like I hope, it goes to that point where it's more about taking care of one another yeah, not school, you know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I'm with you, bro. You know what I'm?
Speaker 1:saying listen like nature, baby, take care of the planet.
Speaker 3:Take it good to her, she'll be good to you yeah, yep, so like here it's uh, cost effectiveness in some cases, bamboo can be more affordable than traditional building materials. So then the more money that you would spend on the hemp creep right, you would then save. You know, or no longer, now, no, no, you would save from building the wood. So that then would you know. So you would use the bamboo as the as your framing, like I said, and that would be cheaper than using the wood. So then it would even out so the house would still be five hundred thousand dollars instead of you know.
Speaker 3:It's super strong. Yeah, it is Dude. I'm telling you, man, that would be so cool, that would be so cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, see, I got to win the lotto so I could build the house over there, you and me in a whole damn freaking country, yeah.
Speaker 3:Pretty much man.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:Pretty much.
Speaker 1:It's not one person in this freaking country doesn't want to hit the freaking lottery.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no lie. Well, I'm just saying it's just that you know to have that money, that'd be great to be able to go and you know, build a house like that, cause you got to get the people that know how to build it to where you are, but you can take the time now to it.
Speaker 1:You don't have to worry about a rush.
Speaker 3:Yeah right, yeah right, yeah, that'd be so cool, and then you can even think about because you can bend bamboo you know what I'm saying and hemp too, but I mean as far as the building. So you can bend okay what do you think? I say, okay, we won't do that, but you can bend the bamboo, so this way you can make the archways in your house without having you know. Like I said, the wood is a little bit harder. I'm sure it's probably difficult to work with in some aspects.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure it would have to be molded and do all that to it like they do factory-wise. Yeah, break it down, turn it into what they need it into.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, that's got to be, like I said, just as a whole, you know it being as strong or stronger both hemp and bamboo than you know than than concrete and and wood. To me it sounds like a better answer. You know to build your stuff with, like I said, especially because you know. Out in the Midwest, you look at the places where there's tornadoes and the hurricanes are killing. You know everything and it's path down south, with tornadoes too. But you know, coming off the southern part of the country and I mean use it, all the places that are flood zones. You know what. You have a hemp house and it'll probably be the border. Like I said, using it as a basement material. The border probably won't go through, you know, probably won't seep through the walls and eat at the base.
Speaker 1:There's a mother nature at some point is gonna probably win but if you can make it last longer or prevent it.
Speaker 3:That'd be great.
Speaker 1:Yep, hong Kong. Ambu scaffolding has been used for more for centuries and still widely used today, construction from small buildings to high rises and favored for being lightweight, strong, flexible, cost-effective. Skilled craftsmen known as scaffolders or tap hang especially trained to assemble these intricate structures, often without use of the safety harness, which is pretty amazing and a little nerve wracking to watch. Hell, yeah, I would do it. You wouldn't even catch me on that. Never Can you imagine a skyscraper and you just get it rough, forget it.
Speaker 1:That's not happening bro, yeah, bro, yeah, no, I'm with you I get up to like halfway to the third, I'll be like, you know, I'm good, I'm good right here hell yeah, what well you need me to watch this window?
Speaker 3:yeah, I'll do this, I'm not going any higher man, that is freaking insane. Yeah, it would be, man, I'm telling you just, I think that we as Thailand too, and Vietnam, oh okay.
Speaker 1:China, india, yeah, so it's definitely used. They use it, they're smart.
Speaker 2:They're fucking smart. That's where. That's where bamboo like originated from right, like they're from Asia, right oh yeah, they come from from climates.
Speaker 1:they've been using it for years, right, that's what? From Asia, right? Oh yeah, they come from climates that are-. They've been using it for years, right?
Speaker 2:That's what I don't I'm telling you people I don't get it. It's crazy how societies are just setting their ways. It's like oh, we use lumber, we have lumber.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's fucking countries now. Well, because nobody knows. Well, you know, like everywhere that you go, depending on how quote unquote old, that that area is the countries they use different things to build. So you know, you go out into, like England, ireland and stuff like that, everything was stone. So they got stone houses, maybe a little bit of wood framing, you know, on the inside for certain things, but their rooms, their walls are all separated by stone. The older buildings, the castles and stuff. You know. You go down into Asia a little bit further south, on that side it's the bamboo and the things like that. That that's what's. You know, holding up the shingles and stuff.
Speaker 2:That's the wild thing when you, when you go to like old countries, like seeing these cathedrals have been hundreds of years.
Speaker 3:Yeah Out of stone, wow Out of stone, wow out of stone. So then now, here it is stone is like aren't they rebuilding?
Speaker 1:that's like the ultimate.
Speaker 2:They did finish it yeah, that's really the ultimate sustainable thing yeah well but again stone it's one of those things that now wouldn't use you know right, but I think, long term, I don't think it's really the the, the offset of of the mining. I don't think is that bad for the longevity of like forever.
Speaker 3:Right, what do you mean? The the, the stone, yeah.
Speaker 1:You say oh, people go, the mining's a lot of you know, I'm sure that's expensive in itself, just mining it. Yeah, I'm sure that's expensive in itself, just mining it.
Speaker 2:Blah, blah, blah, blah blah. The mining is a big carbon footprint because of all the machinery, but when you think about it, if it's going to last lifetimes, then is that?
Speaker 3:really sustainable, because now you have to insulate that rock.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You see what I'm saying. So then it's not as Well. That's where the geothermal comes in. The geothermal comes in Right. That's where the geothermal comes in. The geothermal comes in Right.
Speaker 2:But it's not insulated. It's pretty cool, Like what they use. They dig underground. They use the coolness from the earth 55 degrees, you know like that wine cellar temperature, right, and that's where they heat or cool that air. So it's a guaranteed. Like 55 degrees, it could be 20 degrees outside, right, you're taking 55 degree air. Or Like 55 degrees, it could be 20 degrees outside, right, you're taking 55 degree air. Or if it's 90 degrees outside, you're cooling 55 degrees to 70 degrees. Yeah, it's not that bad?
Speaker 3:Exactly no, it works and it makes sense.
Speaker 1:That's really awesome. I would do that in a heartbeat.
Speaker 3:You could do that here.
Speaker 1:I don't think I can. I already checked. No, yeah, I'm surprised.
Speaker 3:It. It's not in this area. I think depending on the ground yeah, so I just thought you could do it over here. I thought it was more too rocky in this area oh yeah, I didn't think about that too we're up in the mountains, but then, like again, your house would have to be insulated.
Speaker 3:So you can't do that in a rock house without having some kind of insulation on the inside of the rock. It's good if you're in a warm climate, though. Right, if you're in a warm climate, then it works and that's all groovy, it's cool. Right, then you're good to go. But then it depends on where you are. So you can't do that in in Florida, in Southern Florida, central.
Speaker 1:You can't you can't have basements. That's why.
Speaker 3:I know, in in South America. I know, yeah, not a big fan Everywhere, but because it's hot down there. Yeah, I get that you slip on that shit and bust your ass. No, I'd rather give me the formica floor. I mean not the formica, I mean the wood floor. You know what I'm saying? Like give me something that you're busting your ass.
Speaker 1:Well, don't forget the stuff. Hemp can be just like that tile on the floor.
Speaker 3:There you go, and that's that's like you started with that. If it's going to be something that's going to be worthwhile, safe, hello, we should use it Right, you know we should. We've we're already in a spot, and I think in our society, where we can seriously look and think about doing things better. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:And more economical because it how many houses, how much concrete, you know, are we making to build? You know however many houses. You know that we're taking all this wood, all these trees, the rainforest that are just you know. It's like, come on, bro, like it's gotta be something else or something a little bit different. And only once in a while do you get to watch, like you know, hgtv when they're building a new house. Or you know this old house where they always, you know they usually come up with some pretty cool stuff and you know you only get a couple of houses that people are willing to spend, you know, a little bit extra money to. You know, to have a environmentally friendly house. You know what I'm saying. And it's like, come on, bro, you know.
Speaker 3:Like you know, even with the electric vehicles, you know, even I'm talking about, like building the electric vehicles, being able to use some of those sustainable materials. Like you know, you could use hemp, you know, or bamboo to make the fiber. It's almost like if it's a carbon fiber. So now you're making it, so you're using that. Right, that makes the car lighter, so now it's more fuel efficient, whether it's battery fuel or fossil fuels. You know what I'm saying I don't know, or both Hybrid, hybrid. Yeah Right, you know, for me that's that's where it's at, that's what we should start looking at you know, do hybrid and work your way back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just go from there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Cause, I mean, I know it. Nobody can actually sit and say oh, sit and say oh, you know, gas is just the only way to go. It's not as bad as you think. Diesel is not as bad as you think. You can see it when it snows I know people in the South can see it. When it snows it's black. The snow on the side of the road is black, Not when it first happens.
Speaker 1:No, no, no Right.
Speaker 3:Give it half a day, yeah.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying Exactly I why? Because, excuse me, I got a little dry throat. Everything else doesn't melt, so like all the dirt from the-.
Speaker 1:Resilience and everything yeah.
Speaker 2:Exactly. It clings on and then the water melts, and then what's left is all gone.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly, so you're seeing all the good and everything is there.
Speaker 2:Especially when you're in the parking lot. You see the big mountains of dirt it looks all nice and then, after like a few days, when it starts melting, it starts getting better, and then you watch when it's done. It's all rocks and like all the pavement that like broken off on the ground.
Speaker 3:Exactly so now you got all that shit that's there in the in the snow. That's how you know that it's. We shouldn't be breeding all that stuff, you know? Think of how many people have asthma, how many people just have some kind of breeding issue. You know what I mean? The allergies, hello, it's. These are all things.
Speaker 3:We need to start looking as a society, I feel as a whole all over the world. We need to start looking as a society, I feel, as a whole all over the world. We need to start looking at hemp, as you brought up Lou with the bamboo, you know, and anything else, yeah, anything else that would help, you know, and what it's going to be to make these things. Because, I mean, people's biggest argument is about oh well, it's the same carbon footprint, because how do you make this stuff? To me it's not technically the same thing, because if it's only, let's say, a size 10 footprint, that's making the product, say the solar panels or the windmills or whatever, it's not you as another size 10 that's using this stuff. You, you're a size one. If that it does that make sense, I guess. Yeah, you know, you're not using. It's not the same kind of carbon footprint for you to be living off of. Well, I think, clean energy.
Speaker 1:It it's, it's in the process, you know, based on what we're reading and what we're hearing, you know and seeing it on the move. It's just a matter of time when it has its point, where it takes off.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know what I mean. I'm going to write to HGTV and get one of those TV shows when they're building a house, because I'm sure it's because those materials are probably hard to get because they're not readily some things I'm not saying all Right, and that's what we're for.
Speaker 1:So now you have to order it, or whatever. Yeah, but again, if you're ordering it, but like you said before, in the long run you're going to make out.
Speaker 3:It'll make out on the other end, you know, and it'll be cost effective. You would hope so anyway. Yeah, because if it costs me 500 grand to build and on the other end of you know, say in 10 years that now you know the house is paid for, I'm sorry my mortgage has gone down because all my bills monthly bills. I should say I'm sorry my monthly bills have gone down because you know I'm not using as much oil, you know, to heat up the house. I'm not using as much whatever to keep the house functioning.
Speaker 1:It'll be nice when society will be able to sustain their own energy for their own home without having to pay somebody to get the energy to power your home Right.
Speaker 2:Wouldn't that be great? We don't need a power grid. Everybody has their own power system. That would be awesome.
Speaker 3:So then wouldn't that be the solar energy or clean energy as a whole?
Speaker 1:No, it could be anything. Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 3:I'm asking, I'm I'm asking like would that be considered as not, you know, you not having to pay the because? Isn't that how it is now, if you have a, if you have solar, if you have clean energy, when?
Speaker 1:I mean you're totally off where you're like in the sense when you do that? I don't know bro I don't know either, but all I know is that you're paying somebody right now. You're paying somebody. You're paying whether it's gas or electric or both.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm saying, if you've got the, I know, I remember reading If you had something that made their own energy for your house.
Speaker 1:So then Then just powers your house without paying anybody, because it's your energy.
Speaker 2:I know like you do, sell, yeah Power back to the company Do you the power company, but it's not more than their. But it's not more than their. You know what I mean. I don't think it's like like a negative, like I think you still end up using some power, but like Okay.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying. You save money, yeah.
Speaker 2:You don't use as much, yeah, so it's Because you use more of the solar energy Right.
Speaker 3:Because you're banking hours or whatever, for because you're giving back into the, to the grid, or whatever, okay, and every time we try to, you know we got interested in it.
Speaker 1:We really didn't make money. We kind of broke even Okay. And then we were really just say well, we're doing it more for the, the green thing, you know what I mean? That's what we. We were like, we just never did it. And then COVID hit and everything went into a totally different direction.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Right, right, right, right, yeah. Well, I mean, I've seen a couple of houses going further up north and they have windmills on their property houses, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sure.
Speaker 3:It's not the big crazy, you know airplane propeller looking thing, it was more like it was. It was more like a, like vertical. It was long like a tube and it would spin, catch the wind. It was wild, it was crazy. And I was like, oh snap, and that was where they, that was their windmill, you know not something crazy on their property, that just bananas. It was. You know, nice, looking almost like ornamental. Yeah, so you know, listen, I believe that there's a way to fix, solve the way, the aesthetics. I think that there's a way. I mean, I've seen it even too, as far as solar panels are concerned, for your roof. They made them. They look like shingles. They're not just that one big crazy panel, it looked like shingles on the roof. And that was how you were like that's, yeah, that's what I'm saying, so I've seen that. So you know's, really, you like the tin roof. So now, if you can get it, where that tin roof or the copper roof?
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, like strips it comes in strips and that then that's your solar panel, because it's soaking up the sun rays. You know what I mean? Hello, to get too off.
Speaker 1:Now you can. You can tap into solar farms too. You know right, you have solar farms now.
Speaker 2:It's cooler, though, and that's where I mean, if you really want to. I know where we're talking about hemp in this, but the is. I know, I saw it a while ago those electronic roads, the polygon roads, right, the ones that interlock.
Speaker 3:Yeah, those things are cool. They were LED powered solar.
Speaker 2:So they powered the road, they had LEDs in them, they had solar power in them and they were heated.
Speaker 3:They had heaters in them.
Speaker 2:I don't know if it could all be powered off itself, but maybe put back into the grid it's the future.
Speaker 1:It is the future, my friend.
Speaker 2:But the cool thing is, if you have LED roads like that, you can change the lanes. If there's construction, you close the lanes, make them red. If there's an emergency, they would open lanes up for emergency service based on the road.
Speaker 3:Yeah, interesting stuff.
Speaker 2:I only saw that in somebody's driveway you could have emergency services like two miles up the highway and they're already and the lanes are already open.
Speaker 3:The lanes up? Yeah, it would be like red boxes, like emergency service everybody would move over.
Speaker 2:That'd be great. You could that that.
Speaker 3:That's the coolest that is the cool shit. Listen well with that. We love talking about future, I know, yeah yeah, that's like our, like weekend that's get.
Speaker 1:That's our nerdy shit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like I said, the future should be hemp, should be bamboo, as far as anything that's sustainable, anything you use. Exactly.
Speaker 1:Yes, like that's why I think we should go, not going to hurt the environment Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:That's the bomb right there, bro. So with that, so with that love, peace and hair grease, live long and prosper.
Speaker 1:Hello.
