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Exploring Cosmic Frontiers: Private Rocket Ventures, Martian Mysteries, and the Quest for Extraterrestrial Life
What if the secrets of the universe were just a rocket ride away? Tune in to our latest episode, where we unravel the mysteries of private space exploration and the pioneering spirit of companies like SpaceX. We kick things off by demystifying the jaw-dropping technology behind SpaceX's rocket landings—picture a pair of cosmic pinchers catching a returning rocket. Our conversation takes a nostalgic turn as we reminisce about the space shuttle era, sparking a lively debate on the feasibility of launching shuttles mid-flight from a 747. Reflecting on the shifting landscape of space travel, we ponder whether the reduction in costs would tempt even the most risk-averse among us to boldly go where few have gone before.
Imagine a world where science fiction becomes reality, and humanity's next big leap includes food replicators and advanced propulsion systems. In this thought-provoking chapter, we delve into the potential future of space technology, from non-combustion propulsion that could revolutionize interplanetary travel to NASA's discoveries on Mars. Could Mars have once harbored life, and what secrets does the red planet still hold? We challenge you to keep an open mindset as we discuss the incredible possibilities on the horizon, all while contemplating how these advancements could reshape our understanding of the universe.
As we head into the realm of extraterrestrial life and space colonization, the conversation widens to include the prospects of life forms surviving in extreme environments beyond Earth. Drawing inspiration from NASA's Artemis program and the successes of the James Webb Space Telescope, we explore the ambitious goals of establishing a presence on the Moon and unearthing the universe's deep mysteries. Are we ready to explore the vastness of space and the potential it holds for understanding life? Join us for a captivating journey, celebrating humanity's achievements and the endless frontiers of space exploration.
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Welcome to Topping Profit and the Jersey Guy. I'm, lewis, here with Kenny and your favorite Jersey guy. Get ready for another round of real talk, crazy stories and everything in between. What's up going on, my friends? Yes, you guys good. Yeah, cool stuff, all right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's our new intro I'm digging it, I like it. Yeah, all right cool. I new intro I'm digging it, I like it. Yeah, all right cool, I like it I like it a lot a lot yeah yeah, yeah, there you go, all right, what's? Up baby what's?
Speaker 1:our topic space exploration. It's good stuff coming a far away. They're coming, they're going pretty, uh, yeah, it's moving pretty quick.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they are yeah, yeah, did you see the um the rocket come back from spacex. It came back and it landed in the way that it was described on the in the news. It was like it looked like pinchers right, yeah, just like slipped into it, like into the tower and, like the pinchers, caught it and held it and it was like I was like what, that's on here too, man, that was private space companies yeah, well, listen, that's the move man. That's where it's at, because you know they're not afraid to do whatever.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean yeah, they still have to follow well I mean follow rule, but they're not afraid to, to push the, you know, the, the limits, right, you know they're like oh, we're gonna make exactly. You know they're. They're they like that? Listen? Yeah, you're right. They their whole point of view how to go about it and whatnot. As long as it's within safety parameters, nasa is gonna okay it.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean yeah so yeah, and they retired the space shuttle?
Speaker 1:yeah, they did, man yeah, I remember when they were moving that thing and when they had to move it through people's like, yeah, through yeah, through the street, no way. Yeah, bro.
Speaker 2:I remember that yeah you don't remember that?
Speaker 1:They paraded it right, Right With the special or something Right, they had to pull it to where they needed to go.
Speaker 2:I think it was in a museum or something like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think one of them. I saw it before that got there.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, nope, I saw it there.
Speaker 1:I was pre.
Speaker 2:Which one is it? It wasn't Columbia. I can't remember the name of the other one.
Speaker 1:But anyways, but yeah, no, but it was still cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's way crewy, and it doesn.
Speaker 3:No because when I went to Kennedy Space Center as a kid and like, yeah, I remember those things were like shockingly small. I was like wow, they're like in this. The whole time I was like wow.
Speaker 2:I don't have claustrophobic, but I think I might if I was in that thing, you think that thing's small, really, yeah, smaller than I thought it was going to be, really Smaller than what I assumed it was going to be, really Smaller than what I assumed it was going to be. All of them, all of them, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're just not as big as I thought they were.
Speaker 1:Well, they've come far far away from that. And I will say and then was you know before it's time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they were ahead of their time. Oh wait, yes, definitely, definitely, you know, definitely, going through that moment, that's what was happening, right. But now when you look at it, you're like now we're doing this. That compare, yeah, you know, it's different. I always wondered, I never understood, I guess, because what I understood as far as physics is concerned, they would put it on top of the 747 and they would fly it from california to florida or whatever to transport it, to transport it right. My thing was why couldn't they just get that 747 to get closer to the stratosphere and then it take off on its own to get it through, instead of having to do it from ground, you know the three rockets, and jet it up? It probably would have been, yeah, like that, you know I'm saying so. It was piggybacking on the airplane.
Speaker 3:So why would it just?
Speaker 2:go from there Because.
Speaker 3:I think the boosters are probably heavy as hell. Yeah, I don't know, man, yeah, probably.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you might be right. Yeah, that's a lot of weight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I just thought about that now.
Speaker 2:So my you don't really think about it, though, when you don't realize, oh yeah, because I was like man, it should just take off from there and it wouldn't have to use so much fuel, it wouldn't be so expensive, blah, blah, blah. But that makes sense that everything else is super heavy. So heavy, yeah. But yeah, man. So, like you said a minute ago, you know it's private, it's the private space companies, or just private companies, that are the ones that are now pushing the envelope to, to get us into space. You know whether it's just, you know, few times around the earth, um, getting us to the moon, um, you know, hanging out in a space lab.
Speaker 1:They're making it affordable for people to go back and forth. Yeah, just you know, now you can go to the moon or you can spend time in space, right? Yep, you know it's pretty cool. Yeah, would you do it?
Speaker 3:I don't know I mean if I had the money why not?
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't think I'd be good at it, I think I that I'm not a risk taker, but I think for that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah I think I'd be like those people who are like let's go see the titanic yeah, yeah, yeah, you know that's, yeah, yeah maybe that would be the same thing would happen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I I would do it if it was like an airplane ride. What like? If it was an airplane ride, like going from new york to california, like if it was just, you know, go up and you could walk around and float or whatever, without having that Cause they, so that you can do it in the airplane and you know it's the, it's gutted.
Speaker 2:And as you go up no, I'm good now, but when the the airplane it goes up and down, it gives you that zero gravity, feel Right. But if I can do that, stay up and do this. You're all right with that. Yeah, one rotation around, but that there was room. I don't want it to be like we just said in the space shuttle was kind of small and then you're and then I'm stuck up there because now we can't come anywhere for three days. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Because we're in space yeah hanging out that I would be like, ah, I would want to people in my shit right now yeah, in my space yeah yeah, that would be cool, but you know what it's well, you know what it is too.
Speaker 3:It's like when you, when you watch the footage of people back in the day we're in the shuttle you're like, oh, they're in like a room right, oh no that's the whole thing. Yeah, I never realized that I always was like an assumption, like, oh, that's, they're like in a room, right?
Speaker 2:no, that is, that is the room yeah, it's like basically, it's like a just a tunnel on the inside of this thing, yeah, and I'm like, yeah, no, I'm good just watching it. I'm like I'm already like you know, I get that if I'm going in hanging out for like five, ten minutes right then I'm coming back, I'm good yeah, but even then I don't think I would last that long in space.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'd probably chuck it I hear you that makes sense. The same thing with the space station, because the space station is along the same thing. You know that it still is super like narrow and whatnot. Yeah, no, no they do it for months, man yeah, you hear about the two that are stuck in there until they came down right or did they? I thought it was another no, I thought I read somewhere that well then I'm glad they came home, welcome back, glad you all are back, you know sure, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 2:So now that's right here, just orbiting the Earth. Do you think you'd be able to do it if there was, quote unquote, a little colony going on on the moon and or on Mars? Do you think you'd be able to stay in those pods that they're showing?
Speaker 1:Yeah, what you mean, like those little cities Again.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I feel like I'd be claustrophobic in that too, because I didn't have to be big you, because you there'd be no outside if you're building it, we're just like if you're there, living there, and you're with the people building it yeah probably be a different experience.
Speaker 1:Think about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because it's your part of your life. This is what you do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know I don't think I enjoy that, though I wouldn't yeah, I don't know well, no, because then the other thing, the issue is you getting there. So now you're going to be in that little space shuttle all claustrophobic. Now when you get there, you got to help build the pod or build the house or the hut or whatever that you know.
Speaker 3:So I'm saying wow, yeah that's a lot interested in living on a planet where I can just go outside, which is no planet. You know like if there was an inhabitable planet where, like they made it inhabit, like they're like oh, we altered the ecosystem in Mars, right, and made it like inhabitable, like where I could be outside I'd be like hell yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, we'll say this. Let's say that the pods that they put, that they built for on the moon and or that could be potential for mars, yeah, okay, absolutely. Now, if it was the size of, like this and that room, so you have your room, your space here, you know area, you have a bedroom or whatever where you know your living quarters are going to be sizable. If you will right to right To go outside, all you got to do is put on a space suit.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, yeah. Do you think you'd be able to handle that? I don't know. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Maybe one time.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't think I want to go again.
Speaker 2:I don't know man. I think that way's good yeah For a little me Well I guess spec, not even a spec not in space, yeah, not in space, my friend well, how far do you think you'd be able to handle if there was, if it was an, an airline kind?
Speaker 1:of ride. I think it would be cool as hell. I don't think I'd be able to withstand it because I would be nauseous even in space.
Speaker 2:You think you'd be nauseous?
Speaker 1:oh I know, because I did that stupid ride and I think it was Disney or something and it was like mimicking what space would be like when you're on this thing. And boy, I lasted through it, but I got close. I mean the whole idea sounds cool. I was like I don't like the way that felt.
Speaker 3:I just don't want to live in space.
Speaker 2:That's what it is right based for living in space?
Speaker 1:not so much right yeah, yeah, I get that. I just say, on the moon maybe, yeah, if they really do colonize it and things like that. I mean that would be cool yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Said, so my my personal. Why should them to do that?
Speaker 1:So because of all, they say that they should have no problem.
Speaker 2:Just tunneling it, Are we? But are we talking? So now we get environmentally correct. Now here we are. We're drilling and doing everything that we're doing here to planet earth Right Now to go and do it to the moon.
Speaker 1:You got to do it green, that's, to planet earth right now to go and do it to the moon, you gotta do it green, that's.
Speaker 2:That's where the uh you know that's, you have to do that. Yeah, right, you have to do that, do it the right way there, but what's there that we would like really need if we're going green here, like what would we have? To bring back. You know what I'm saying, so that would be I get it. It's just the fact that you could travel there and live there then that you know, now it's got it's going to be the crazy part. You know you ever have you seen that movie, the martian?
Speaker 2:yeah, that was really good, right, so now look at all that he did himself at the end yeah, right, yeah.
Speaker 2:So now think of if we had to do something not just that kind of drastic, but living on the moon right, you know we'd have to do something not just that kind of drastic, but living on the moon, right, you know, we'd have to set something up for us to be able to grow food. Everybody would be vegan. So you'd be chilling, you know, because you wouldn't be able to, really, you wouldn't be able to farm any animals, really.
Speaker 3:No, you know, honestly not enough space, and that would be so inefficient because you have to feed animals in order to kill them later Like the craziest thing.
Speaker 2:that would be the only thing. Thank you, kenny, for bringing that up. I'm just saying. Well, you got to get the mind right bro.
Speaker 1:You got to get the head right, yeah, right. No, you got to get the head right. No, you got to have the head right. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2:Like that, yeah, you have to have your mindset that to understand You're gonna be Right now, you have to do it. Yeah, like these are all the things that would have to Absolutely Come through, you know, because the only thing you may Be able to have up there Are chickens for eggs.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but you have to feed chickens so it's inefficient. Now you have to feed. There you go, right.
Speaker 2:See, so then you wouldn't even there you go See, so you can't even do that, you know. So I mean, yeah, everybody's going vegan. You know what? I'll try some vegan food.
Speaker 1:Still, it doesn't matter as far as space is concerned. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, what?
Speaker 2:do you mean?
Speaker 1:What you just said.
Speaker 2:You know what we need, yeah.
Speaker 3:The food replicator. There you go. That's it bro. Exactly Star Trek, Star Trek.
Speaker 1:I'll have a steak with you. I was going to mention this Because it'll be vegan.
Speaker 2:It'll be tofu, it'll just be replicated.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it'll be the real thing.
Speaker 1:It'll just be replicated, so no animal. I was actually going to mention this scientific. You know, like you know wife, you know sci-fi and that right the difference in the. You know the comparison. I was going to mention, and then it wound up just coming up, which was really cool. Yeah, no, always think when I look at what's happening now, you definitely say, yeah, it's getting kind of close to what we see in the movies and things like that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, maybe I probably way better obviously.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, not close in that sense, but I meant like figuring out a propulsion system that doesn't rely on on combustion a propulsion system I said, if they can figure out a propulsion system that doesn't require combustion, like that, like some.
Speaker 2:I don't know like the anti-gravity that we haven't, yeah, like they haven't figured out yet, like what we believe that's like people see the ufos right like a move, like precision with like, not like anything that's defies that we have that can move in that manner at all.
Speaker 3:No, because right now we're gonna figure out something like that we could just cut right out of the atmosphere with no like friction. Yeah, that would be like that. We would be able to like travel so far yes and so fast we could. We could go to you know jupiter in like 10 minutes, you know. Wow, can you imagine that?
Speaker 1:dude, or five minutes? Yeah, two minutes could happen, I'm not gonna say it won't dude.
Speaker 2:You know what? Then that would be a trip worthwhile, because now we look at all the things that we've seen in movies and such, because you could take a short trip.
Speaker 3:I don't know exactly I don't know if I would do it yeah you know, tell me how it goes.
Speaker 1:Is this, is it gravity on the ship? Yes, does it go out? Not all the time? Oh, I think stay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but if you have the boots, that are magnetic boots you could just and walk through the whatever you know. I'm just saying, bro, absolutely yeah. So now, nasa, so now we'll skip over a little bit. So, as of right now and I know because I followed them for a little while nasa had the um rovers on mars, came back with the coolest pictures, videos, all these things that they had over there, and, um, they even found water, frozen water. Yeah, okay, now that's not wild to think that that planet was a living planet many, many, many moons ago.
Speaker 1:You know yeah, like it was just too close to the sun, right you know, that is what they said insane.
Speaker 2:Insane because now you know it, you really want to just use your imagination a little bit. What if there are really, uh, whatever life form living below the surface? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2:I don't know if I go that far, but I would say maybe well, I'm talking find uh like you know, like they do here yeah, well, I'm talking like you know, maybe, like I'm not saying like a humanoid or something like that, I'm saying like maybe you know some kind of organisms, you know, um, some little bugs, uh, you know little animals or something like that that would be able to survive. I mean, think about it, here we have, there are little bugs, you know, little animals or something like that that would be able to survive. I mean, think about it, here we have, there are little bugs that survive in Antarctica.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. And they're in the ice and they live in the ice. There's worms, there's things that are like the size of like beetles, you know, like medium sized beetles or whatnot.
Speaker 1:Everything has its purpose.
Speaker 2:Exactly, you know things that live out by the volcanoes right so then maybe there are that kind. That's what I mean. But I know that, like I don't think that, they do.
Speaker 3:Oh, you mean on other planets, on other planets and stuff that you know that maybe it would be, but you know, I think it's. There's things that I you know, I'm sure there's things in space on other planets and other souls they're landing.
Speaker 1:They're landing on asteroids, I mean, or is it um like?
Speaker 3:like the five laws of physics? Yeah, maybe there's like yeah, like that. Or maybe you know, we, when we like, have our what is it? Table of contents or what is it? Called, not table of contents. What?
Speaker 1:The index elements oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, or whatever.
Speaker 3:You know all the? That's what we know for based on our planet, Right? We don. You know all the? That's what we know for based on our planet, right?
Speaker 1:we don't know if there's other metals or other natural elements on other planets, right, you know, and that goes. Different insects, right. Different life forms yes, can, it would be everything right it would be starting all over from the beginning again.
Speaker 3:Yes, if you went there right, we're just so cocky about it. We're like, yeah, well, I guess not, because based on what we know about only this planet, we assume can exist in other planets, right right.
Speaker 1:I hope they're not that naive and say because of what lives here is going to be there more than it's impossible maybe it was something different, right, but was their life they're not saying that I don't think they are. That it's that. It is human. It can be a different, a totally different life form that lived on that planet and now we're finding their remnants or what's left over.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean? Yeah, history, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:Space history.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, dude, all day, all day. But that goes to what you were saying before you know about, we have now rovers that are digging, or you know, looking at the mining on asteroids. And before you know about, we have now rovers that are digging, or you know, looking at the mining on asteroids and whatnot. You know, they're mining.
Speaker 1:They're landing on them and mining them, yeah, and then they release it and then take it off, yep.
Speaker 2:Yeah, very cool, yep, because they want to know what's on them, because the other part of that too, that was a twofold thing Because I watched it on Nat Geo and what it was. I know it's already, I did that no, I watched it too, and they were saying they were looking for what they could. You know what kind of ore would be on that? You know steel or platinum or whatever.
Speaker 1:Or a different type of metal, of course, or element, right, is it an?
Speaker 2:element. Yeah, and then the other thing was also to see if they can land and anything on there, you know, like a droid, that they would land on their rover and that they would, um, uh, hit it with a couple of jets like and push it away from hitting earth and and or hitting anything like right near us. So then we wouldn't get the you know whatever little asteroids or whatever, were that the doomsday meteor coming, you know.
Speaker 3:You know what's funny about asteroid fields in space? An asteroid field looks like a lot Right. The thing people don't understand is those asteroids are hundreds of millions of miles apart from each other. They'll never. It's not like in the movies where, like, oh, we're going to go to the stars yeah, like three or four movies.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right, right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like in Star Wars.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like zigzag.
Speaker 1:Are you sure? No, I'm floating around Spinfest.
Speaker 2:Comanche out of nowhere. Yeah, that's what the it's space man, Shit happens.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 3:It's just like asteroid fields it looks like a lot, but they're so far apart. Yeah, really. Yeah, they're more I believe that, that I do believe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there are they say look, how far we are from the moon, look how far we are from Mars. You realize, wow, that's pretty far. Yep far yep, and it's a long journey. Now I don't know if I want to do that and again.
Speaker 2:You know it's one of those things not now in my life, I don't right well, but why not?
Speaker 1:now, because what I'm older now?
Speaker 2:exactly.
Speaker 1:That's why I say I would do it, because I'm older I'm older now I'm gonna be a cyborg yeah, there we go the board, yeah yeah, no, but I'm sorry no, I'm saying that you know we have time now, that we don't want to just waste away and just, oh, you know what, let me go travel through space for 10 years.
Speaker 3:No, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm not doing that. I get that. Let me enjoy myself. I'm not saying you shouldn't, I'm saying I wouldn't, right, yeah, I'm saying if people feel they we should talk about the James Webb telescope. Well, I was. I was saving it for last. You were saving it for last. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, let's hold it. I was saving it for the last 15, man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't want to jump ahead that much. I was with you. Yeah, I'm with you. I was like that's, I was going through the other stuff.
Speaker 1:It's good stuff, man. What is going on with that thing?
Speaker 3:We'll get to it. I want to jump ahead. I apologize.
Speaker 1:Well, no, no, no, sorry, just to land, land on an asteroid and to mine it, and then I believe it, you know, reports back.
Speaker 2:whatever it is he picked up or it picked up whatever it is um, and they get the data, yeah, and they go from there and they figure it out now that's the other problem for me, because it takes so long, because it's so, if it's the one that I think you're talking about, it was out past jupiter and it had landed on a, uh, an asteroid, up that far out really, and and um impressive the um, the uh, the laser.
Speaker 2:So they're using a laser pretty much to aim it back at earth and that's how we get the information. But because it takes so long that now it's out by pluto right before we even get the info back, right, you know what I mean. So it just shot out another three or four years before we got the info of what it did three years ago, right?
Speaker 3:you know what I mean that is.
Speaker 2:That's the downside to me, that's the downside I don't know, I think it's getting better I don't think it's that long.
Speaker 1:Really. Now the other planets, they're figuring it out. I think they got it down. It's gonna be impressive if they do this and they're able to go to mars. And people actually want to go, and I think they should. If this is something that you know, they truly you know it's in their blood, you know they're an astronaut, this is what they do, whatever they're in the military.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, right, exactly, you know. I mean, you know I'm thankful for those people to go and see, but yeah, dude, listen, that would be insane, like it would.
Speaker 2:That would be one of those things I personally would like to see happen. I'm I wouldn't mind, like I said before, being able to take a ride out to the moon. You know, yeah, if it was like I said, you know, sitting in an airline, you know well, because what? Uh, not spacex, uh, amazon, that he has that one, that it's like you're sitting in the and like his. Well, I don't have you seen his spaceship thing, the one that he's in the rocket. Because you're sitting in like a round room kind of thing, really, yeah, wow.
Speaker 2:And so you're sitting in a round room because you're only going up. You know it's just sitting in the stratosphere and then you come back down, but you know it's pretty much what it is. So it's not like you claustrophobic sitting in whatever. You know it's pretty much what it is. So it's not like you claustrophobic sitting in whatever you know, which, again, is why it's even cooler that these um, very cool that these uh companies well, amazon, uh and and uh, spacex, that they're making these kind of spaceships. You know where people are going to be comfortable to go. You know you don't want to be sitting all crunched up and you know this super uncomfortable space suit or whatever you know. Matter of fact, they just made the space suit that is more form fitting.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So this way you would feel more comfortable. It's almost like a, it's tighter, yeah, yeah, like a fighter jet, a pilot A fighter pilot jet. A pilot fighter jet jet. You know what I mean you know, but you know it's a little bit more form-fitting and easier to move and that it's not so heavy and bulky like you know when armstrong went up into the, you know, into space and whatnot that big crazy listen.
Speaker 2:Those people are brave as hell to do something like that yeah nature to you know what, all right, space cool yeah, there's a go right, you're right a million percent, a million percent, dude, that is awesome. You know, and you know even the people who did it first?
Speaker 1:who didn't know right? That was experience first yeah, and everybody after them dude.
Speaker 2:Um, I can't, can't imagine what that was like hell yeah, I'm scared thinking about that I'm good you know, but and I I would like to see them go back to the moon, you know, or those that believe that they went back to the moon the first time, that they went to the moon the first time, others that don't, but I would love to see that happen all over again.
Speaker 2:You know, it would be really cool that, while they're up there, to prove that they were up there, that they would turn around and, like, set some, like put a light out, set like a strobe light, like a lighthouse, to show that they're up there, that the world could see that they're really up on the moon. You know what I mean, because people don't believe that yeah, right there. So they would be on the. If they can pull that off, yeah Well, because it's the, so the moon doesn't spin.
Speaker 3:No, I know it stays fixed. That's just the right way to say it, so that then, if you just that's why we never see the dark side of the moon, exactly.
Speaker 2:So that then if you just turn around and you have a nifty mirror, you know, I mean, you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:yeah, I see what you know, I know exactly yeah, that would be.
Speaker 2:That might be impressive. Yeah, I mean it doesn't have to be a huge mirror or whatever. But you know, think about it. They fold it out now you go camping exactly that.
Speaker 1:This way people could see it. Yeah, you know, this time such and such is going to happen hell yeah, everybody would be outside and watch that shit.
Speaker 3:You know it's probably on the dark side of the moon a lot of-.
Speaker 2:The Transformers yeah yeah.
Speaker 1:In the sky.
Speaker 3:Like a lot of asteroid like, bigger like, because that's probably it gets hit more with asteroids Right on that backside.
Speaker 1:Yeah, mm-hmm, yeah, so why do we want to?
Speaker 2:Why don't we send?
Speaker 1:something in to look at it.
Speaker 2:Oh, definitely yeah, but that's what the reason for them trying to get and doing all these space tests is to get back over there so they can go and look on the dark side of the moon, probably.
Speaker 3:Exactly, a lot more greater, because it probably gets hit all the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, I'm sure, it probably gets it used to get hit a lot more than it does now.
Speaker 2:Yeah it it probably gets it used to get hit a lot more than it does now. Yeah, it saved us from a lot of it's history.
Speaker 1:It's history is. Yeah it's deep and, from what I understand, the farther away it's going to go from what I understand.
Speaker 2:The moon yes, I thought it was coming closer.
Speaker 1:No, it's going farther out.
Speaker 2:Listen, listen, if you think about All the things that has happened on all the planets for the last 3 million years, and here we are and we've evolved to where we are in the past 5,000 years, if you know what I mean, that's pretty wild. And then, even with the people that believe that we're not the only ones yeah, oh, dude, yeah, I'm just saying, but that people don't believe that they could be life on another planet?
Speaker 1:listen, I think there is, but first. Why don't we fix what we got going on here? Let's not get into that conversation, but do that here first. Why do we need to go somewhere else? We're not doing it here, right? Do it here first, then go somewhere else. Yeah, and do it.
Speaker 2:No, true enough, I'm with you, bro, you know. I mean, yeah, I hear that it's gonna do right by.
Speaker 1:By the way, lisa's out bro this guy lisa's out.
Speaker 2:That is great, that is great. But yeah, man, it would be. I think it would be kind of cool, you know, and um, like we were saying before, you know there's a few, we sent out a few, uh, robots, probes, rovers, there's a program.
Speaker 1:Nasa's artemis um program yep, now that one.
Speaker 2:It didn't die out yet, right no.
Speaker 1:So by late 2020 um present it would they hope by late 2020 we'll have presence on the moon, where we're actually there all the time that's cool.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean that would be late 20s, right? So yeah, so when that would be right now we're 24 right now I don't know what I mean.
Speaker 3:That would be freaking cool when that would be right now. We're 24 right now. I wonder what the advantage would be. I wonder if there's something we could do. Listen, if they do it.
Speaker 1:I'm all for it. Just do it smart, and they do. I don't think NASA's never really done a bad job of what they've done, some bad things have happened, but overall yeah, and heartbreaking of course have happened. I mean but overall I had, yeah and heartbreaking of course you know, but and and, and you know retrospect, you think?
Speaker 3:about it right it's.
Speaker 1:They learn from it, they move on, they get better. They make sure they check this for now, on whatever's going on.
Speaker 3:Fortunately, the fucking thing challenger was the o-ring and then, with columbia, was a loose ceramic tile. Yep, yeah, I didn't know that for years, that that that the the white and black on the on the shuttle right ceramic tiles, yeah yeah, the heat, yep to spread out the especially when it came in, because it came in belly first.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yep, so the atmosphere never came in. It never came in those right in this way. Yeah, because this way keeps all the heat man, this way keeps it.
Speaker 2:We said just like, yeah, well it it. Um, it spreads the heat. Yeah, this way, it's not in just under one spot, right it just? Flares it out right so you know, still hot, but yeah, yeah, yeah, it's wild, but yeah, man, that's balls to do something like that?
Speaker 1:and what about the spacecraft? Back in the day when they first came out, you know, when I was a kid, I I remember sitting and watching them land on the moon. You know that was crazy. I remember sitting there and watching it black and white. We're in an apartment, you know, from that time till now. Right, it's amazing where they've come Now. It's so much they could just send something out and it'll do the work for them. They can look and watch and see things with just the camera, right, so they don't necessarily have to be there To go there. Obviously, that would be great too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you want to do it right, right, you want to have a decent life. You're going to stay up there for a few years, there for a few years. You want to at least have some room to roam around.
Speaker 2:So you're gonna need to build some shit, yeah, yep, yeah. The houses, the huts, the, the, just the living um tunnels it's like a hive of some sort right, yeah they, they look pretty groovy, you know they look really cool, you know.
Speaker 1:But the thing is, you get storms up there, yeah, yeah, don't matter.
Speaker 2:Well, that's the thing they're making them strong enough to where those little sandstorms wouldn't be able to.
Speaker 1:I'm talking about Mars, yeah.
Speaker 2:They're saying that the sandstorms that they have, that the hardest thing is going to be to keep the fine sand out, the fine dirt, the little rocks, because there's so many storms that happen that it's it's dusty, right, so it's almost like a talcum powder, it's that kind of thing. So then it's going to be, it's going to get into all the cracks and stuff and that's where the issues come in. They can build a structure where it'll be tight, you know, from the wind. You know what I mean, because that's why they have them, like the huts that they make them round. But it's just that sand that's going to be the hassle, you know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's the crazy part. That's the crazy part, but yeah, that would be really groovy man If you know, like you said, by the late 2020s, for us to have colonization on the. What do you call it? What did I miss?
Speaker 1:No, I'm laughing at myself. I apologize.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, that you know, late 2020s.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, we'd be able to have that it's going to get better.
Speaker 3:Oh, dude, that's going to be so freaking amazing.
Speaker 2:That's going to be so amazing.
Speaker 1:You can see that the technology is getting so much better. It's getting more intricate. They're figuring out other things now. Hopefully they do it the vegan way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, no lie, no lie, of course. Yeah, no, I think that that's going to be the bomb and then. So now we could do the last 15 minutes.
Speaker 1:Sure Telescope. Well, the telescope James Webb. Yes, this thing is amazing. He's found things that we thought we saw, and then when, when he took pictures.
Speaker 3:Completely.
Speaker 1:It was totally opposite Of what we thought it was gonna be, or it had a different the way it sees gases.
Speaker 3:Oh it's crazy and stuff like that. It's just like this you just see, like this plume Of, like this orange Gas, and I think that might have to do with Light or with I think that might have to do with light, or with the but. I don't know, but it's like amazing it's freaking great, ain't it. It is so cool like.
Speaker 2:My favorite picture is the pillars of creation. So it's those tall, long ones and just watching, just seeing how much better, clearer it looks, I'm like what, what? And that's millions of years happening. That is still, you know, creating.
Speaker 3:Well, that's the thing that I always found weird is when people say like, oh, you know, we looked millions of miles, millions of light years away and we don't see any planet that's inhabitable. But like, maybe it's not inhabitable. When we see it A hundred million years ago, when you looked at it Right, exactly Because we're seeing the past.
Speaker 2:We're not seeing what's happening right now. We're not seeing what just happened.
Speaker 1:No, Not at all Exactly. You're seeing the past.
Speaker 3:It's the same as when you look at a star or anything else in the sky, because you're still light Right.
Speaker 2:Still traveling, yeah, yeah, because what we? We're not even seeing any. There's no stars except for the sun in our solar system. Light is what you perceive light.
Speaker 3:So if you're seeing something that's that many light years away, light had to travel that far to send the picture back to your eyes.
Speaker 2:That is how far away you're seeing. Yep, that's what I'm saying. So I think about you know us getting any kind of information. You know all of our stuff is. You know, way back when, Like they sent out back in the 60s and 70s, they were sending out records and on the satellites, um, with music and math equations and such on it, that by the time they get it, anybody, anything, any other civilization, will be able to decode it or open it or read it or whatever. You know that was back when we were dumber than we are now. I guess if that makes any sense in comparison to what it would be or could be, you know out there. You know we hear about UFOs. We don't see them coming.
Speaker 1:Listen, I think space is amazing because it holds the key to everything you know. It helps you. You know, a lot of the stuff that's in the stars is where we come from, right yeah?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Think about it, it's crazy. Yeah, so we're part of the universe, my friend.
Speaker 2:Yeah, definitely that was way deep, that was super deep yeah.
Speaker 1:It's too deep.
Speaker 2:We're all coming from stardust, yeah, so now, what other things did we see that they discovered from the telescope? Did you see anything else? Because I saw a lot of the stuff. They took a lot of pictures of things that we saw before. It was this kind of high depth.
Speaker 3:I just know that it's just the picture and quality and like, yeah, like it's like looking at, like a high depth, but like going from standard definition to like.
Speaker 2:I apologize, yeah, no.
Speaker 3:A thousand K.
Speaker 2:Right, right, right. Yeah, listen, it's insane because it's further out too, and that was the other thing they wanted to do.
Speaker 1:And another thing, and it's seeing stuff that had like we already said it had already happened, yeah, you know, and it's gone closest to the beginning we've ever come Right which?
Speaker 3:is mind blowing, which is crazy. You're like what is that? Yes, it's what.
Speaker 1:We don't even know what that gas is because we haven't even, like we haven't discovered it yet. You know, like it's just the colors and whatnot. And the james I don't mean it's the james webb telescope, jwst has, uh recently made remarkable discoveries, significantly advancing our understanding of the universe. Explode Exoplanet atmosphere, right See, you find planets that have that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Right, they got all this distant galaxies and black holes, organic molecules in early universe, early universe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, see, the black holes are the ones that scare me.
Speaker 1:Early universe. Yeah, not late, mm-hmm, not in between, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, way beginning ones Yep, but that's what it's crazy. That's what scares me, though, too, because black holes in some of those spaces.
Speaker 2:Well, they say she found a bunch of those as well, right, so there's one that's close to us here. So now it's just a matter of how, how long before it gets big enough that it starts to suck us in, because that might be why it is, and now that I say it out loud, I remember that being a thing that the moon is getting us, that we're spreading out, because, pulled in by like the gravity, you never know the gravitational pull of the black holes is what's pulling makes sense, but you would think we would get closer though, right, because they were all going to the same place, wasn't it?
Speaker 2:But don't forget, we have the sun. So because we're orbiting the sun, the closer we are to the sun is the stronger that the gravitational pull around the sun is. So then, those of us that are closer, don't go out and get pulled out as fast I guess is the easiest way to pull it Right. Don't go out and get pulled out as fast, I guess is the easiest way to pull it Right. So that's why I'm glad that the telescope can see that shit, because you know it doesn't make a difference, because we're going, we're going, it won't make a difference. You know what I mean? It's over Right here.
Speaker 3:So you were just saying black holes right, Distant galaxies and black holes. Humans won't even exist? Yeah, Probably not. We're gone already. This is just our echo right now. What you see right now is just what happened.
Speaker 1:Right right, we already did that, we already did this shit. Webb captured galaxies that formed shortly after the Big Bang, challenging existing models of galaxy formation. It also identified some of the earliest supermassive black holes, helping researchers better understand the universe on how the universe or massive structure, I should say evolved into young universe. There you go, into young universe.
Speaker 2:Yep, wow, there it is. Yeah yeah, insane.
Speaker 3:Yeah, insane, insane.
Speaker 2:It would be just really cool if you know when we sent a rover out, when we took a picture of another planet.
Speaker 1:Oh, they did that already.
Speaker 2:That we would see somebody like wave back oh right, Wave back at it. On TV or something. Yeah, yeah, like that would be fantastic.
Speaker 1:It could happen. Yeah, it could happen. That would be so cool.
Speaker 2:You know, these pictures are from Mars.
Speaker 1:Cool, you know. These pictures are from mars. These pictures are from the moon, yeah, pictures.
Speaker 3:You know this video, yeah, but did you watch the documentary on that?
Speaker 2:no, I didn't see the whole documentary.
Speaker 3:It's really good they in order to get that thing out there. Oh, it was amazing was they had so many practice missions on it because it had to open a certain way in a certain time frame, otherwise it was not going to work right. And they, they got it like I do remember perfectly and they had and they're doing they're piloting it from earth, right. So it's like really precise and the you know, there's like a radio delay on some of it, so you have to press the button.
Speaker 2:It's like and wait, yeah, and like that I knew. Now question didn't they have a broken lens or something on it, or I think they had to fix it. Yeah, they had to change it up because it was concave. Then when they put it in, they put it in backwards.
Speaker 1:So would they do something to fix it? Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't know if it was something or someone. I don't remember what it was. No, are you thinking?
Speaker 1:Hubble, or are you thinking the new one? So?
Speaker 2:it's probably the Hubble.
Speaker 1:It's the Hubble. It's the Hubble, yeah, but the new one, James Webb. That thing has gotten hit a couple times already, Right? Yep, I saw that. All right, it's got dinged, but it's locked in where it's supposed to be. It's orbiting, you know, and that's where it's getting, you know. It's right where it needs to be to get those freaking pictures, man.
Speaker 3:Can.
Speaker 1:Imagine how far Dude, that's awesome, it's looking back, it's like wait, hold on. And you're like it must be amazing. When you see the pictures, you know what I mean. It's just crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're beautiful and they were saying that the different spectrums of light that it's catching are wide as we get to see those gases and whatnot, you know.
Speaker 1:Listen, bro, that that thing. I love all that stuff. I like watching, I like hearing it. You know it's it's, it goes pretty far back, man. Yeah, it does a bunch of stuff you know. So here it says a universe's expansion debate. Okay, I'm sorry. Guys have intensified discussions about the hubble constant, a measure of universe expansion rate. The telescope date has not resolved discrepancies between differences measurement methods, keeping this debate open among cosmologists, space I hope I pronounced that correctly.
Speaker 2:Close enough.
Speaker 1:Intriguing stellar patterns. In recent image, JWST captured unique concentric rings around the Wolf Rayet star WR140.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Likely formed in interceptions oh yeah, likely formed in interceptions, but this is companion that structures after a rare glimpse into the complex. I don't have a glass, so I do apologize. Complex lifestyles of massive stars.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, tell you, man, it's really awesome. It's cool to see space, it's cool to see where we have gone. In's cool to see, yeah, where we are, have gone, and exploration to get through, you know it's all right guys get your glasses later, that you know, just to see all that stuff. You know, yeah, you know pros and cons getting up into space. It might be a little claustrophobic, you know.
Speaker 1:I don't know like, you know what you have to have with you when you go.
Speaker 2:My fidget spinner.
Speaker 1:Laces out, laces out, you have to have it in there with you. That would be cool. Laces out, bitch. That's who I am. You see that you know who I'm about.
Speaker 2:That's freaking great man. Pretty much yeah.
Speaker 1:But yeah man, it's good stuff, yeah so thank you, I'm glad this was a great conversation.
Speaker 2:Thanks for having that kind of conversation. That was a good movie.
Speaker 1:I always love talking about this stuff. This is. You could talk about this stuff forever. It's just amazing how they so precise and clean and nothing can get in. They have to wear these crazy suits when they're moving stuff and it's so slow. You're watching the, you know you could, you could tune into it and watch it. It's crazy.
Speaker 2:It's like I think that'd be the one thing, one reason I want to go to space to see if I'm really going to move that freaking slow, Like I don't know if it's really no, but I mean the people who are building it and making it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know they're taking their time.
Speaker 1:You know they're not rushing it, you know they.
Speaker 2:I just want to see, and then everything that goes near it or goes in it will have to be wearing right you know it would have to be clean.
Speaker 1:Yup, definitely, no fucking around. Yeah, none, none.
Speaker 2:But that's why they have that clean room. So when you walk in like, you walk in like, say, like the foyer, and you walk in like, if they really do that, yeah, well, you know, hey, it's one of them things, man, yeah, man, it's one of them things, but anyway. So that's our time for today, gentlemen.
Speaker 1:Talk more, but this is our time so we need to go.
Speaker 2:That is funny, yeah. So thanks everybody for listening. Hit us up like always Love peace and hair grease. Hit us up like always love peace and hair grease. Live long and prosper and go vegan hollow.
