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Instinctive Actions and Lifesaving Reflexes: Exploring the Unseen Forces that Shape Our Lives
Have you ever felt an inexplicable urge to act without thinking? Join us as Keny and Louis take you on a journey through the fascinating realm of human instincts. With Tom, the Jersey Guy, taking some well-deserved time off, we compare our instinctual behaviors to those of animals and share gripping personal stories that underscore the power of our gut feelings. From moments of sensing danger to the way our upbringing shapes our instincts, this episode uncovers the unseen forces that guide our daily lives.
Imagine rescuing someone from a burning building or stepping in to prevent domestic violence—actions driven purely by empathy and instinct. We'll dive into these heart-pounding stories that highlight how intuition can be a lifesaver. We'll also discuss the importance of staying vigilant in potentially dangerous situations, like navigating a crowded subway platform or dealing with challenging individuals. Learn how our natural reflexes can make split-second decisions that can change the course of events and potentially save lives.
As we grow and mature, our instincts evolve, helping us handle life’s challenges with greater finesse. From avoiding near-miss accidents on the road to respecting local knowledge in unfamiliar environments, our experiences shape the way we respond to the world around us. We'll share humorous and reflective anecdotes that illustrate the blend of innate instincts and learned behaviors that make us who we are today. Join us for a thought-provoking and engaging discussion on the role of instincts in shaping our lives and aspirations.
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Cotman, crawford and the Jersey Guy podcast. Hey everybody, kenny Cotman, lewis Crawford and I'm Tom Ramage. The Jersey Guy. He's still out of here. The Jersey Guy yeah, he's still on vacaciones. He's still out of here. Yeah, all good, still on vacaciones. He's still out of here. Yeah, all good, that's right, that's right. He said still, yeah, having fun.
Speaker 2:He was chilling. Yep so good. He sends his love to everybody.
Speaker 1:Yep, definitely Miss you, tom. Miss you, miss you, tom. Yes, okay, your turn. Introduce the the show. Yeah.
Speaker 2:We're gonna're doing on instincts? Yes, because there's a lot of, as far as we're concerned, right when it comes to instincts. How often do we really use them? How often do we allow ourselves to rely on them? Because we've evolved to the point where we don't really rely on them. But we do. Maybe we just don't pay attention to it the way we should. But, like with animals, animals absolutely yeah, they go with their instincts, without question. They don't even think about it, it's just second nature, they just do it.
Speaker 1:I think all animals really.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I think, every living being actually, when you think about it, everything everybody has has instance, Right, it's just like you said. I didn't even think about how you were saying that. How much do we actually use them anymore, Right, you know?
Speaker 2:I bet you, if you know, if you really trained yourself, you probably could you know. But what you do in a sense, like, for instance I don't mean to cut you off, Like when you get like something's not right, you know, you don't like you know what I'm not going to do, that I don't feel like going there today or whatever it is. If, for whatever reason, you get something, it just doesn't feel right, or a person or something. So I would consider that definitely an instinct, definitely the body you know you're?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I didn't even think about it right because.
Speaker 1:So now you that feeling, you know I and I, I always try to walk with my head on a swivel, meaning I'm always looking around, checking to see where the exits are, you know, looking to see who's in the place. If I even you know if, when we go out places and such, I won't drink too much if I feel that something just isn't copacetic in the right in the building, you know now that's a bad, that, that's like you know, when you get into bad juju from some place or something like that. That you know, uh, but it's always good to have that fear. You know instincts are what tells you or fuels you to move on right, to make things happen, to go right. You know, get a gut feeling something about something and you're like you know, instincts are what tells you or fuels you to move on right, to make things happen, to go right, you know, get a gut feeling, something about something, and you're like you know, what?
Speaker 2:yeah, no or maybe yeah yeah, oh, you know what.
Speaker 1:That's not a bad right, you know you happen.
Speaker 2:You know, like uh, but if something doesn't feel right, usually nine times out of ten it's right. Versus that, if you did it through the mind, right, because your mind is going to question everything, it's going to try to make it logical, it's going to try to whatever it is, and that just overkills it. It overdoes it.
Speaker 1:Our instinct told us how great it would be to come and do this podcast.
Speaker 2:Was it instinct or was it just a I think it was instinct, maybe.
Speaker 1:It told us to go ahead and make it happen, like you know what. Yeah, let's just do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's go, and now we're freaking geniuses in our own mind and we're doing the greatest podcast on god's green earth, right? But yeah, no, instincts help you. Help us just, uh, be able to function. You know, you know when something doesn't feel right. You know when something doesn't feel right, you know when something is right. I'm trying to think of what else. What do we do in our regular day that would you know, that our instincts kick in without even knowing it. You know, right, that one time when you, like you, said, if it's a smell, something just smells a little bit off, you know, and you don't go to this particular place. You know, uh, even if you, um, you hear something.
Speaker 1:So for me, my job, I work on machines, so I almost know when something's not going right, because because it sounds and it's like stop it and then like looking and I'm finding where it is, so like that instinct, right, I'm going to say that that's an instinct.
Speaker 2:Well, that was something to learn. You were heightened alert, for sure. You were definitely waiting Anything that's out of the ordinary. You're going to pick it up? Yeah, you know what I mean? It's the same like in your house. You ever been sleeping? Yes, I could sleep Through anything, through anything, man. But you're sleeping like and you could, I could sleep through anything, do anything, man. But then sometimes you hear a weird noise and then you're, then you're sleeping. You're like, yeah, what would you hear that? Did you hear that? What was that? Yeah, kind of thing.
Speaker 2:And then this winds up being something silly or whatever it is, but you heard it, you heard it and you know, and it woke your ass up too now here's a good question.
Speaker 1:Would you agree that, depending on where you grew up, that your instincts are different? So we grew up in the city so, like I said, we walk around and we're looking to see who's around, we're aware of our people, surroundings, right right. But if you grew up, let's say, out west, more rural area, with that, then because of the animals, if you grew up on a farm or um, hearing something in the bushes, would that be different instincts? Because, like I said, you would get that smell or that one sound, that hmm, I just think um it.
Speaker 2:Wherever you grew up or wherever you came from, of course you're going to be acclimated to that area that this is what you grew up with, that's what you know. Of course your instincts are going to be strong in that area, but I'm sure you can go somewhere else and be able to use some of them, or life skills, or whatever you want to call it to get through or to adjust.
Speaker 2:Yeah, whatever it is, but yeah, you will rely on it. You know, like certain things, you know. You know if you're a city person, you know what they're looking out for. If you're a person from a country, works on a farm, you're gonna know. You know. You just, yeah, it's just second nature to them. Yep, you know what I mean. So, but if something's not right with something and if something feels right or whatever one of the animals or something, they're gonna know. If something like, you know, if they're not acting right or doing something wrong, have you felt, do you think?
Speaker 1:because now, as we're speaking on it, I believe my instincts have changed In regards to what. So, just how I between dealing with and or react to, so, like I know, when I'm walking in some place, right, I'm like I'm not looking around the same way that I used to. Like you know, now if I'm out with the wife I can sit with my back toward the door, but I've already scoped out the whole place and or that I see. You know I can. I'm a little bit more comfortable sitting with my back to the door in that direction. You know what I mean. So I'm a little bit lax in what my instincts would have told me 15, 20 years ago, right. So I'm wondering if that's just because I'm not worried about the same things or if it's that my instincts have just fallen off.
Speaker 2:No, I don't think they're falling off. I think things change. You adjust with whatever goes on for the environment that you're in. You're just adjusting to whatever it is where you're like. Okay, I don't need to feel that way here. I can be Right, be relaxed, right. Listen, when I go into the city, I'm fucking. Immediately, I may not be there and I may not live there anymore, right, but as soon as I get in, when I'm walking through the city, I'm walking the same way I walked right I go in and out of people, yeah, you know, to get to where I have to go, or I just and I make sure I I keep an eye on my surroundings.
Speaker 2:I got my eye on people and shit Just making.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2:It just comes, you don't lose it. Maybe you get a little rusty or whatever. I wouldn't know if that would necessarily be instincts, maybe, I guess. I guess that would be. But yeah, you just you're invited. You know when something's not right or when something is right, you know, or something's up and somebody's trying to pull some shit on you or whatever it is yeah, yeah, yeah, you know so the question is have we lied, or do we realize we're not using as much, or are we using enough, you know?
Speaker 2:So this says no, we haven't. I suspect that most of our instincts are constantly drowned out by the frantic noise and commotion that is ever present in human society. Here's something that happened to me. I was on a solo kayaking trip on Lake Powell in March about 15 years ago, and I haven't seen another person for 12 days and expected to continue my trip for several more days. The weather had been sunny and warm. I'm going to want to read the whole thing.
Speaker 1:Hang on a second.
Speaker 2:So I guess it's a long term. So obviously something came up and he made sure I'm sure weather-wise he needed to do something to take care of him. So I'll read about it more. I didn't realize it was that long. I apologize, but basically what he's saying no, I think what we were both saying is when the time presents itself, you'll just go into action. Yeah, so I guess we don't. I guess when it's necessary, you will.
Speaker 2:So now our conversation Kind of like Captain Kirk in the Wrath of Khan, right when Khan shot his asshole up, and then he was like and they said to him at the beginning Captain, you didn't do it, I just simply got caught with my purchase down, bro.
Speaker 1:That's funny, that's funny, but yes, that is instinctive. Yes, exactly right, that's awesome, man, that's awesome. So now we were talking, talking. We were speaking earlier before about, um, when something happens, what we would do and you were saying that your adrenaline goes through the roof depends on the situation.
Speaker 2:yeah, like, sometimes I'll be calm and there are other times where it's just how the situation presents itself, right, right. So it's the way I'm reacting, so I look at it as I'm reacting, in the right response for myself. Now I may not look at on the outside, but inside, you know, my, my, my heart might be racing, or my adrenaline, my height. I'm heightened up and on you know, waiting for something to come, how to happen or whatever is going on.
Speaker 1:Are you speaking just on violence? No, are you speaking on like? So example I have, I have no problem with running into a burning building, you know. I mean like I don't have, I'm like boom, that's what it is, and I'm super calm and I don't feel that crazy adrenaline rush until after I think that yeah, no, I'm.
Speaker 2:I think it depends on the situation. Again, yeah, it could be a situation where someone's looking to fight you or something and you get that rush, or you're in an argument, or you're nervous about something, something's going on at work, or maybe your family life or whatever it is. You know what I mean. So you're just responding accordingly. Now, do you?
Speaker 1:find you're a rescue person.
Speaker 2:Is that you go and you will be able to go and help somebody in a situation. I think so because I think I would hope, I hope I would. I mean listen, I think I'm smart enough to know that, like you mentioned a burning building, If I realize and I look at it, if flames are coming out of every orifice of that building I'm not running in there, right right, right, right, I get you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what I mean no, um, but what do you call it? And I'm not a train fireman, you know, but I mean, but I would expect that, when the time came to, I would hope that I would respond to whatever emergency may present itself, which I really hope doesn't happen. But yeah, I will respond to it the way I'm supposed to. Yeah, you know, like uh, for instance. Uh, it's not the same thing, but when I was working over in pine bush, there's a vet across from one of the buildings that we work at and there was a guy in the parking lot. He had one dog with him and I guess his other dog was in, and this guy was super upset, crying. I mean, he was bawling on the phone and my heart was just aching for him and I couldn't help but just to go over to him and just you know, talk to him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, you're all right everything okay and then he told me about his dog and everything I said. I'm so sorry. I understand, you know you know just why don't you sit down, relax? I mean, then there was another guy working on the vet building. He was like, yeah, his dog is in a thing. This such and such happened. So yeah, I kind of do respond. Yeah, I think I would hope, but you know I can't. I feel bad if it's the right thing and now if it's somebody who's a total ass and they brought this shit on themselves and and something's going on.
Speaker 2:Well, that's on you. I'm out.
Speaker 1:You're out and I hear your voice already saying that shit. Hey well, you're a fucking douchebag Like. I hear you, bro, I don't know, I don't think I would say douchebag.
Speaker 2:But I would say you're out. I would, if necessary, but if instinct called for it, I would absolutely. Yeah, I would be, you know.
Speaker 1:But now. So then, with that story, though, is that considered instinct or emotion? You know what I mean Like just a heartfelt moment you?
Speaker 2:know what I'm saying. I think it was because sometimes how many times have you seen something where you've seen people from a distance or something going on? You didn't feel the need to go over that situation. If something was going on got you okay but then, if something did come up, yeah okay.
Speaker 2:Whatever reason you're, you were drawn to that you know, and it probably could be because I have dogs and I understand the loss or the something bad happening to them. Yeah, so I was sympathizing with them immediately. You know I, you know, I know what that's like, right, yeah, definitely, you know it sucks. So I kind of felt for them and I could see it was genuine Right, so it was sad, but so, yeah, I would look at it that way probably.
Speaker 1:Because I mean I know for me, and then going by what you're saying, instinct like for me, and then remember what you're saying, instinct like when I was way, way, way young hanging out in in manhattan and I saw this guy beating on his girlfriend, okay, and I was with my cousin and another friend and we went into you know instinct don't hit this woman, don't beat on her the way he was beating on her, bro right, yeah, no, I think I would probably get involved in that right said then that, or at least help her in some way where I could get her help right, like if I felt, you know if again, yeah, whatever the situation called for, right, right.
Speaker 1:So then, yeah, so that, like I said, that would that was our instinct. You know, to go and help out, right, you know, it's one of those things that that I think you're man. It makes sense when you, depending on the situation, that then you would jump into Right If you felt the need to right yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Right, because sometimes you're just drawn to it Mm-hmm For whatever.
Speaker 1:Because I, and not that I go looking for trouble or ever really went looking for trouble.
Speaker 2:No, but you happened to be there at that moment.
Speaker 1:yeah, I just happen to be there like I remember a friend of mine and I we were outside and my uh great uncle lived next door to us and the house is on fire his apartment. So he was like kenny the house and we just ran into the building and when he went into my uh uncle's house, I'm already running inside and I'm getting the people out of the building, I'm running upstairs to the third floor and I'm fire, fire, come on out and whatnot. You know, like that was us, without thinking about it, and it wasn't until we got out of the building. We're like oh shit, man, we just ran into the building Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was wrong with me, bro.
Speaker 1:You and instinct told us to go in there and make sure that everybody was okay yeah. You know, and yeah, and even taking the subway man, instinct said don't sleep in this corner. You know, don't stand on that part of the platform.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, you knew, you know. Yeah, like if you were on the platform. It's funny you should say that I remember doing that. When I where, I got home or whatever, and I was on the platform, I was always checked before I walked near that platform and made sure there was nobody around me. You know what I mean, and I'm sure our body language alone was like don't even freaking, think about it Stood against the pole Pole.
Speaker 1:The support beams in there, you know the I-beams Stood against that. I always pulled. Every time I, whenever the street come out, I would walk back, Back away from it. That's why I'm bugging out with these people getting pushed into the subway. Pay attention people.
Speaker 2:Wake the freak up. Listen, not all people. I get it. People suck, so I can't blame the person.
Speaker 1:No right.
Speaker 2:Maybe it's just because we were more. We were always on the train.
Speaker 1:City.
Speaker 2:Brooklyn, whatever. Yeah, you know, like, for instance, the other day I was doing, driving, I was in God, what was it?
Speaker 1:Ellenville Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:And I'm looking for this one building that I have to do my inspections in. So I pull in and there's this woman, older woman, she had to be in the 60s, maybe close to 70, whatever. She's got a cart and she's pushing in, she's got whatever on and and she's kind of looking at my van. She's looking it up and down. I'm like, oh, here we go, I'm getting karen.
Speaker 1:I got a karen. I'm getting my first karen that I ever got so she's looking at me and she's making faces.
Speaker 2:I was like what? I don't even have the window down. I was like that's what I was doing. Yes, yes, what? Okay. Then I picked up my book that I needed to look at to see what I was doing. I totally ignored her. So my instincts were like don't get into it with her, just blow her off and ask her if she's not important. That's what I did, because she kind of was just standing when she was looking at me. When I did it, she kind of looked away and everything. I was like no, I'm not having this shit.
Speaker 2:So I was like all right, you know what, I'll just look at my book and just stay with that and focus on that and hopefully she'll. And she did she just. She took off, she just left. Did it look like she was trying to like beg for money? No, she was being to tell me I couldn't park there. I could see what was going on right away. She was like looking at the van, looking at me. I was like yeah, what? Yeah? And the window was closed. She saw my body language. So hopefully she saw my body language and was like yeah, that's not the right guy.
Speaker 2:I should do that with, because I wasn't about to have it and the police station was across the street and I was in the government center. So I'm like, okay, so I'm gonna have somebody fuck with me tonight. You know what I mean so but fortunately I was smart, I didn't escalate it. You know I didn't roll down the window, say some stupid shit to her or anything like that.
Speaker 1:I picked my book, just went to business and do what I do and she just turned away and walked away yeah, well, so you know, and so then that's that's. That's definitely an instinct. You you know to know, to see that that person was going to be acting up and whatnot. So I get it. Yeah, you know. Yeah, I mean, I just think about all the things, like just from us quickly conversing before the show started, just all the things that I've done that I paid attention to and never really thought about it being instinct. You know just that that was just the way of life. That was just to to go walk to wherever be, whatever situation or anywhere that we were. That I was and like, oh yeah, okay, I noticed that over there, or I saw this, you know, checking out cars that drive past. You know, right, like you said, people that are whatever, acting weird or strange.
Speaker 2:Like you said, people that are whatever acting weird or strange like you go somewhere and a guy's acting weird, you're like because I pick up on that immediately.
Speaker 1:I'm like stay over here, like if I'm with tanya or something like I just move it to the side or whatever I'm like yeah, just you know he didn't mean that so much towards us, but he looks like he's gonna be kind of, you know, like he might say something that happened.
Speaker 2:Um well, I well not necessarily to us, but just the fact I just didn't feel comfortable I went to protective mode and I was just basically yeah, I'm not gonna let you know anything goes down, I don't. I'll make sure I already got her where I needed to be. Yeah, I did that where I do that.
Speaker 1:But one particular incident I was with my daughter, samantha, and this guy bum, homeless I don't even know if he was homeless, he just, you know, off his rocker or whatever. And he looks at her and he's like I gotta tell you you're beautiful. And he's trying to come closer like no dude, you gotta stay back over there. And he's like he looks at me like what, who you talking to? Rrf this? Kiss my dad. I'm like no, no, no, no, no, bro, back up. So then I stood in front of her. So by that time instinct was already yo get in front of her and push her back. So this way, if anything, exactly. So yeah, that's definitely instinct yeah, I get that.
Speaker 2:Whether it means protecting or helping or.
Speaker 1:When our kids were little and they're running around doing whatever and we just happen to be in that one spot and put their head before they smash into the wall or you know they hit the floor because they're running around the house or block that corner on the counter and stuff like that you know what I mean. Like that's all day instinct, yeah.
Speaker 2:Sometimes I just let the first time. That's the only reason why you did it. That wasn't instinct, that was just you know what. Maybe I should put something on this corner, you know what?
Speaker 1:I mean, come on, bro, I was trying to make this look like Superman. Yeah, no, that's dope.
Speaker 2:Now, if you did, recognize one and say, hey, this is going to be.
Speaker 1:Take an eye out you know what I mean well, sometimes I did just, you know, let that better judgment go on my kids, you know right, they they you know, I used to set them up for that stuff, so I don't know how I want to. I didn't listen to the instinct, to the little voice in the back of the head say no, no, not that, because, man, yeah instinct when you know the wife is going to yell at you.
Speaker 2:So you know right, you buy flowers beforehand, I think I think we know and I guess that comes with experience too as you get older, you try to figure out how to handle situations. You get better at it as you get older, hopefully, hopefully, and then you know how to handle it. Instead of reacting, you kind of just don't react at all.
Speaker 1:You're quiet and everything.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. You just watch everything around you instead of being you know on the jump right away. You know what I mean Because now we've become master Jedis.
Speaker 1:So we know, maybe when we're feeling it it's a little bit off, right, that makes sense.
Speaker 2:It's true. I mean, I think the older we get, the wiser we get for sure.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2:And hopefully you, you know, you're smart enough to realize that and there's certain, like you said earlier, a lot of certain things you worried about when you were younger. You think about it now. You're like I've wasted all my energy on that bullshit for no reason, but you were supposed to yeah, you need that was part, because that's part of the journey. You need to do that. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:So, in order to yeah, no it's just sometimes, and we still have more to go. We're not even done, right, we're still on the road. We still have a lot of stuff ahead of us that we're not even aware of, right. Hopefully, all good, and you know we'll get through whatever we need to, if something happens to come up.
Speaker 1:Definitely, I think, like you said, it's that growth, that maturity. Right, and because I mean driving on the highway, I've always been crazy as far as just you know, get out of my way and whatnot. I still have it to a point, but now my, I got a fidget spinner.
Speaker 2:So right my, my right, you know you don't allow yourself to get worked up like you used to before right it's telling me that there's too many people with guns that are shooting out the window in the car. Exactly.
Speaker 1:So Instinct's like yeah no Yelling at somebody.
Speaker 2:It's not going to help you, man. Yeah, no Losing your mind. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no doubt bro, but yeah, I mean, it's just wild on how. So now we say animals, Animals on how. So now we say animals, Animals. Their instincts, their senses, they know when the storm is coming, bad weather, fire, whatever is coming, and they know to run for high ground.
Speaker 2:Oh, they can tell when something's going to happen, but that's a sixth sense only, because their senses are so much higher than ours.
Speaker 1:still, that was a good segue, right. So wouldn't instinct be a sixth sense?
Speaker 2:isn't it a sixth sense because well, whatever you're sensing, right when you get, you get like this crazy, uh, and then you're like I'm out, right, that's the instinct. This is like bows, bows, knees and bows. That's all you can see man, heels and bows. They should say heels and bows I'm out yep, big tidal wave coming. Something happened, a storm so then that's right so right.
Speaker 1:So then to me, in my, I think, they go hand in hand, so that a sense is that you know something is coming, you can feel when.
Speaker 2:So it's, that's the instinct so check this out, go ahead. An innate, typically fixed pattern of behavior in animals. In a certain response to certain stimuli, birds have an instinct to build nests. Nobody taught them how to build a nest. Birds just build them. But didn't they copy? No, because, remember, mom builds the nest first, then she lays the eggs and then the babies hatch and then they leave the nest. Now it's just they figure it out and they weave it. When you look at it and you see, and I find I found old nests. Yeah, you know, for the work we're doing, you know so you have to get them off it, but I don't take the nest away until the eggs are fully hatched and they're gone.
Speaker 2:Yes, and then right, yeah, and then I'll remove the nest, because anybody that tells me to remove it, I'm going to be like it's not going away.
Speaker 1:It's staying right there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm not going to kill birds for you.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah.
Speaker 2:It'll be fine, mm-hmm, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:You'll be all right for another couple of weeks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they use the mud to kind of glue it down to the surface so it stays down Like if you ever take a nest it doesn't just come off, it's stuck, it's like cemented down Really.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:They're amazing, Depending on where they build it, Like if you found them in a certain area. Sometimes they're on windows, they're underneath soffits, you know on a light fixture or something like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've seen them, I just never tried to move one out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's amazing. You're like, wow, how the hell did I freaking? It's incredible, mm-hmm, but they just do it.
Speaker 1:Nobody taught them, they just do it Because out of instinct. So then it's like insects, well, like bees or wasps, the same thing. Their hives Right to protect the queen, to protect the queen. So they build it that it's this big, so that this way she can stay safe in the middle. Right, that's go ahead.
Speaker 2:Or if something happens, something invades the, then they go to right away boom, they're gone, they're out, they take, they take.
Speaker 1:Anybody even comes near.
Speaker 2:They feel.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah near, they feel, yeah, yeah, they take they yeah, so yeah then, yeah.
Speaker 2:so instinct and and and um a sense senses like yeah, I think everything right, everything goes hand in hand, which helps the other one out, right? You know, sometimes we the bad thing is if we second guess something like you ever have a situation I don't know where, say I knew I shouldn't have freaking gone in there, yeah, exactly. Or I should have just stayed home today because you had a bad like the first beginning of your morning or something's going on and just it sucked all the way through until you got out the door, yeah. And then there was a part of you that says you know what fuck calling it's a wrap, yeah that's it, I'm done.
Speaker 1:I'm not going in today. Yeah, yeah, no, well, but then so I get you. But now you actually go, would you be? Should you be heightened senses, more alert, because you're feeling uneasy to begin with?
Speaker 2:I think it just throws everything in a whack. Yeah, that's why the rest of the day goes to shit. So that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So now you go, you will go, you go to work, and now the rest of the day is even worse, worse just doesn't get better you know, and now you're already heightened right before you got to work and you're hoping that work will just slow down because you get your mind fixed on something else. You get in the groove, you do your thing, whatever it is that you're doing, and then and it doesn't work out.
Speaker 1:It's a bad day anyway.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because then that's when you turn around and go. You know what I'm not feeling good yeah, I'm going home, I'm out here yeah, yeah, yeah, and you could do that, you know, oh yeah, no, right for sure I mean if it's just, if it's just not right. I've done that before I mean not a lot, but there have been times where I was like you know what?
Speaker 1:I'm going home dude I've ended conversations and be like yo listen, you know what, I gotta go see you around back, like next week or some shit no, yeah, no later. So, yeah, I get it, I get it, I get it. That's wild. I mean, like I said, just us talking about. I never even I didn't really think about it like that. You know just that the instinct and the sense would go hand in hand, right? You know, I was like, yeah, whatever, it's all good, we're chilling.
Speaker 2:But how does a bear know to hibernate? Who showed him that?
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:Yeah Right, mm-hmm, but they do.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Now, obviously the mother has the cubs, right, but the babies don't know that. They're already in the thing with them. They didn't see mom and right, how does a dog know how to? How does a dog know how to? So this is good. So when you think about it, it's almost like what came first, chicken or the egg, right, kind of thing. But like when you, when you see a dog give birth for the first time, even human beings, right, how the dog cleans the puppies off, right, they do the whole process and then the puppy's going. They, how puppy is going, they the puppy. How do puppies know where?
Speaker 1:the nipples. Are these go?
Speaker 2:yeah, they find it they know it's like okay, so that's. I think that's definitely a huge instinct that's totally yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, even with human babies, you know, yeah, absolutely the baby. You know, how do you know to, how did the mom know to breastfeed? You know what I mean. Right back in the day, I mean yeah right, yeah, because that was the only way.
Speaker 1:And then yeah, I mean obviously right, so then they didn't like, they just knew to do that right same thing. You know, uh, even kids walking and growing, you know growing, now they go and they're curious and they touch things and right, you know, looking, they learn how to walk. You know, yeah, we helped them and stuff, but you know it's still, it's gonna be that instinct to want to move their legs as such. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:We have parenting instincts too, right. So I remember Tanya telling me a story about how Haley was in. They were in a parking lot and she decided to walk off into traffic, walk in, and Tanya had. She said I had a head full of hair, yeah, and I pulled her ass back.
Speaker 2:And some lady saw it and gave me shit for it and I told her mind of business, because I just saved my daughter's life, yeah, because she would have got killed if I didn't do that right. So it wasn't something that she was doing maliciously. No, it was something she was doing one at an instinct, yes, and being protective at the same time, and saying no, yeah, and that was the only option available.
Speaker 1:You Right, that was the first to stay to my grip because she stepped into the street.
Speaker 2:That happened to me with Frankie. We were kids, we were well. I always walked from my house to his house and we always walked together, and it had to be like around summertime or something like that. And I remember it was on 59th and 15th Avenue on the corner, car went out of control and was coming dead straight at me and it was where the light pole was, on the corner, and Frank, just, I just it was like a deer in headlights, it didn't move and he just grabbed me by my chest, picked me up and just pulled me out of the way and the car slammed right through and yeah, holy, he just did it. We were just talking about this, him and I. So yeah, it was like he just reacted, he didn't think, he just did it. You know what I'm saying? Right, he says I'm surprised I didn't even hurt you. I said, bro, I didn't feel hurt, I didn't have a bruise or nothing. So whatever you did and however you did, it was the way it was supposed to be done. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, there were stories too. You know people, their instinct when somebody's. You know parents that their the kid is caught under a car or under something heavy.
Speaker 2:Well, that's super strength though.
Speaker 1:But it's part, wouldn't it be that adrenaline?
Speaker 2:Well, their instinct is to save them, right, right. So that would be the instinct, and that adrenaline Instinct was to move that car.
Speaker 1:I know I got to move that car, whatever it is True.
Speaker 2:I have. I know I got to move that car.
Speaker 1:I know I got to move that car. Whatever, it is True. Yeah, you're right. You're right Absolutely, or whatever it was I knew. I mean, like I see things on social media where they're showing the kid is grabbing at something or doing whatever and the parent turns around and grabs the kid at that last second Right or bounces whatever it is.
Speaker 2:The guy's a ball game Almost. Falls off the porch like off the balcony or something.
Speaker 1:Father grabs him yeah like back to the thing.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah.
Speaker 1:The ball part, the home run or the ball came I think it was a line drive or whatever a foul ball and the kid is like this. And the kid wasn't going to grab the ball and he just stuck his hand out and caught the bull barehanded in front of his. You know from his kid Like he switched hands with the beer or whatever that he had.
Speaker 2:And I was like and caught the bull, Just caught that shit, yeah. And he was like that's crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:And people are like yeah, you don't think Right.
Speaker 1:It's just because you never think they move out of the way of some kind of danger. You know, you just saw it happening or just starting. It's like, you know, like I've told you I can't tell you how many times because I drive everywhere and I just driving and something is happening and at the moment I'm just like do whatever I had to do, dipping it out, you know to get out of way whatever didn't even think about it, just didn't even think about, just did it, bro.
Speaker 2:it was like Just did it.
Speaker 1:It was like au naturel, and then, after it was done, I'm standing there like what the hell oh.
Speaker 2:Oh Yo did you see that I had Robbie in the car with me?
Speaker 1:Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:And we were driving on 17B around the racetrack, all right, and there's a light. This guy blew the light. Something happened and I had to get out of the way, like I had to, like fishtail get out of the way, and I went over the medium and then I spun around and I parked, like parked in a. I got out of it. But I was pissed because I wanted to kill this guy, because I actually went and looked for him at the time. I was younger than yeah, so but robbie was like dad, you just pulled some shit out of your ass. I cannot believe we just got out of that. Yeah, he'll tell you this day. He'll be like I don't know how the hell you did it, but he said I thought we were dead yeah, that happened to me on the bell parkway.
Speaker 1:It got out. Yeah, I was getting onto the bell parkway and, um, there was a car a jeep, cherokee behind me. I never forget it and he was too far over to the left so that when we were coming out to the arm wrap at the same time, this car trying to get around the cherokee oh man clipped my left bumper, it whipped my it almost like a um, a pit maneuver with the cops right and I shot across.
Speaker 1:Now, if anybody that's listening knows, the bell parkway there's. The bell parkway is always, always packed traffic jam yes, always always shot across.
Speaker 1:I dipped right through a bunch of cars across the third lane, was still like turning the wheel to back to the right, because when he hit me, he, you know, he shot me to go left, shot across, whipped it back, got control of the car and shot straight across over and was able to stop again and park the car, you know, on the side of the road instant. Because when I got out of the car I'm like I turned my chair. I was like hey, is everybody in the car? Okay, are you guys all good? And people like grabbing, like they're just like what the hell was only five of us and it was four of us in the car and we're like, oh, what the hell? I'm like everybody good and I get out of the car, bro, I grab the back bumper. And I was dude, I was 17, and I grabbed the back of the car like oh, lord Jesus, thank you, cause that would have been ugly.
Speaker 2:So I mean that instinct I had a thing happen to me on the Bell Parkway as well. It was coming back from Long Island and I had my mother's. I forgot what car it was. God, it was an 80s car for sure. Anyway, I'm driving and it was wet, and the Bell Parkway, and it was wet, it was bad yeah, man.
Speaker 2:I hit the brakes, I started spinning. Now, like you said, the bell parkway is packed, always people. Not one car hit me. Yeah, I spin it. I just let go of the steering wheel because I couldn't. I was out of control, so I just like I let go. And it spun out and went up on the embankment and landed up up backwards where I was facing down at the road, okay, and it stalled, yep, and I was like because I thought I was gonna get blasted.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I honestly did I let go of the serum? I'm gonna get creamed anyway, it's gonna happen? Yep, and it didn't, and then I just started the car back up, got back on the bell parkway and drove man.
Speaker 1:I was like what the fuck? I'm going straight home, yeah I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly. But it was crazy, like when those things have that instinct too, I think, because when you know, excuse me, when you're in a situation where there's no or you're not getting out of it right, so your instinct is to just to accept it. Yep, where this is it? So my instinct was like all right, well, I couldn't care. There was no way I was getting the car back into control because it was spinning yep so I just let go of the car and hitting the brakes wasn't going to do anything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's going to make it worse and that's why I think you know, like you said, it's depending on and you were right all day that depending on, I can repeat that when you, depending on what the situation is is where your instincts will kick in, right, you, you know, I, I one of my favorite sayings ever smoking the bandit and um uh but when I get home I'm going to punch your mother in the mouth.
Speaker 2:No, not that one Punch your mother in the mouth.
Speaker 1:That's another great one, though, but no, he says depending on what part of the country you're standing in, will determine how smart you right, okay, the reason why I'm using that now, an association, because you just fixed for me what I said earlier, that just depending on the situation. Okay, you know what I mean it's.
Speaker 2:And not so much your upbringing right?
Speaker 1:no, just depending on what it is that you're seeing that you feeling easy about is where the instinct right kicks in yeah you know what I mean. And and I, I, I will say man for coming out of the city and then moving into suburbs. I like a lot of my stuff changed my feelings on how.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but as soon as you go back to the city, you're right back to what it's boom yeah. You're already back in this, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, cause it's just you just can't help it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can't help oh my god, it's who you are. It's just if you haven't been there for a while, you know yeah and it's a little bit heightened right, I'm staying on like you know, vigilant everybody like oh, you're having a good time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm having fun, yeah this is great. You want a drink? No, no, no, I'm good and I'm just, like you know, laughing and joking to have a good time, but I'm still like how?
Speaker 2:about when you go out somewhere and you see people like rushing to get into a certain area let's say it's an amusement park or they open the doors to something or theater or whatever. And my first like when I start seeing people go, I'm like I put my hand in front of time.
Speaker 1:They're like, hold up, let him go. Yeah, uh-huh, let him go, right. But see, I do that if I feel that certain people that are there are going to get out of hand other than that, I'm like, oh, let's go, you know, and there's yeah, no, but I'm looking more for protect it, so you don't get hurt yeah because people are just not thinking now, they're just going because they're thinking about themselves and it's like you know, it's like all right, just wait, it's like black friday sales it's still going to be there when we get in right
Speaker 1:yeah, I'm with you, you know, and it's wild. I think that for me, this episode, what I'm taking away is it does depend on where you are and it does depend on the situation. Right, of course, you know, and before I always felt that it's just always is that it's always on, you know, and that, even though you're at what you think is your most relaxed, it's probably you, you know, probably you feeling the force to know what's going on around you, even when I hear cars or whatever outside, when I'm at work and I hear the machine, you're in the store and you just hear a certain tone of a voice, whoever's speaking, and you're looking to see what's going on. Right, because you know you never know. You just never know. It could be anything. You know me being a another comedian that I am. You know it could be that one girlfriend that you said you know, no, I don't want to be with you anymore.
Speaker 2:She's like you hear her in the store one day and she's like louis you're like, you see her and then she doesn't see you and you duck and you work the aisles and you're like there's another, there's 20,000 Rite-Aids. Yeah, I'll go to another one.
Speaker 1:Like Jesus, honey, no, no, honey, I'll be outside, I'll wait for you, yeah, yeah. I got something, yeah, yeah. Yeah, are you back in a little bit? Why are you hiding behind the pampers? That's funny, that is hilarious man. Yeah, that is hilarious, but yeah, it's I. I think that our, our upbringing all day does give us different instincts. Street smarts yes, you know Right.
Speaker 2:That, but I won't take away from oh, no, no, no. From other people when they come from. Like so If you and I were to go somewhere, yeah, we have no clue.
Speaker 1:We're like, oh, look at the pretty bird, don't touch the bird, don't?
Speaker 2:Yeah, joe man, don't go near that thing.
Speaker 1:Blah, blah, blah Like oh shit, I didn't know that be right, whatever.
Speaker 2:Whatever it is right. So, yeah, you have to rely on other people's stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when you go there and be respectful right, you know, so you don't get hurt and you know, because their instincts, their right, teachings their stuff, they know what all those things are. You know it makes they go. When you look at, um, these people that go into, uh, the woods, they could find their way out, way out of the woods. There's other people that walk in there and they never come out. Right, you know what I'm saying. And they were just walking in circles for the last three days and shit.
Speaker 1:You know you get hurt. So we're pretty much the same. We get cut and we're just like, yeah, put some crazy glue on it or put some duct tape and keep it moving Right.
Speaker 2:paper towel and painless tape.
Speaker 1:Just go and keep it moving right paper towel and painless tape. Just go and keep it moving. You know meanwhile, but that's the instinct, because we got to keep moving, we got to keep doing. Whatever we're doing, we don't have time to stop. That's an instinct. That's something that we learn from back. I give myself stitch.
Speaker 2:I've given myself stitches. Yeah, I don't think I've given myself stitches, but I definitely would uh, you know been able to repair whatever it is they damaged.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, but yeah because I was more afraid of my mom than yeah, I don't think I guess, that's a weird thing too.
Speaker 2:Why are we always afraid? At least when we were growing up, when we were little, we were afraid that if you got hurt your mother's gonna get mad at you, because at the beginning she's not gonna get mad at you. After you get better and you're done in the hospital and everything, then she's going to tell you you're punished because I told you not to do that and hopefully you learned your lesson and if you say another word we're going back to the hospital.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I gave you the Because now and you'll be staying there for a couple days.
Speaker 1:Yeah, uh-huh, and if you don't get, to come back home?
Speaker 2:remember I'll visit you. Okay, don't worry, dad will understand.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that is the funniest shit, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, honey.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. I mean, we are who we are because of our instincts, because of our upbringing.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Because of the last episode of TV shows that we watched, the friends, we had all that other good stuff, you know, and parents. Parenting. Oh, dude, the parents, your family.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but again, a lot of stuff I'm sure we did if we would really think about it. Well, I did all over again that we didn't get from them. We got it because it was just our instincts.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, dude, not what you necessarily learned from your parents, but what you had to do on your own and I would do it all over again certain things are learned and hopefully you're smart enough to keep that and you remember what your parents taught you and you know how to get at it, and sometimes it's just natural, pure instinct. You're just responding the way you were supposed to. Anyway, we are now at the end of another podcast, fabulous podcast. Yes, we're freaking, amazing bro well, I don't know if we're amazing but, I definitely have fun enjoying doing it, so I said the bar here yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, yeah, because I'm still looking for jimmy kimmel.
Speaker 2:Well bro, I don't know, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm working on it. You're working on it. All that being said, yes, so Thank you for joining us. Love, peace and hair grease. Live long and prosper and go vegan. We'll see you next time.
