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Keny, Louis, Tom Season 3 Episode 29

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Remember the feeling of gathering around the TV with your family, eagerly waiting for your favorite show to start? In our latest episode, Keny and Louis bring that warmth and excitement back to life as we explore classic television that shaped our childhoods. With Tom, the Jersey Guy, taking a well-deserved vacation, join us as we laugh, reminisce, and reflect on legendary shows like "MASH," "The Lone Ranger," and "Bonanza." We promise you'll walk away with a newfound appreciation for how these timeless programs skillfully combined humor, drama, and adventure.

Curious about how TV has evolved over the years? We delve into the impact of groundbreaking sitcoms such as "All in the Family," "Good Times," and "The Jeffersons," examining their relevance to contemporary issues and societal norms. We'll also take you through the thrilling, often eerie escapades of "Twilight Zone" and its recent reboot, and the action-packed adventures of "BJ and the Bear" and "Starsky and Hutch." Feel the nostalgia as we discuss the gritty realism of "Beretta" and "Adam 12," touching on the hard-hitting themes that left a lasting impression on audiences.

Finally, we take a light-hearted stroll through the evolution of television content, from the conservative classics like "I Dream of Jeannie" and "Bewitched" to the more liberal and diverse shows of today. We'll share personal stories about our preferences between iconic characters like Mary Ann and Ginger from "Gilligan's Island" and discuss the surprising changes in advertising over the years. Wrapping up with a heartfelt sign-off, we promote love, peace, and even a nod to going vegan. Tune in for a trip down memory lane that's sure to entertain and enlighten.

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Speaker 1:

Cotman Crawford and the Jersey Guy podcast. Hey everybody, kenny Cotman, lewis Crawford and I'm Tom Ramage, the Jersey Guy. Yo, what's up? What's going on, bro man, how you doing. I'm good man, excellent, excellent, excellent. So for going on, bro man, how you doing. I'm good man, excellent, excellent. So for everybody seeing Tom's not here today, he's on vacaciones.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, living it up, living it up, living it up. Oh yeah, it's Friday night.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's a throwback song for those of you. Yeah, so Tom is out. He's hanging out with his family enjoying themselves. So well-deserved, much-deserved, super-deserved Kenny and I are here right now.

Speaker 2:

We're going to do our nifty little show. We're going to do our thing.

Speaker 1:

Keeps you all entertained. Yes, because that's what we do. So today's episode is about classic television.

Speaker 2:

That's right. Classic television. So for us.

Speaker 1:

Right For what we enjoy.

Speaker 2:

What we remember is classic TV, yeah, so do you want to do and we'll make sure we get it right, in case we're not sure.

Speaker 1:

Right. So now, do you want to say what your favorite TV show was, or do you want to say where you believe classic TV is?

Speaker 2:

No, well, let's say we just go start from the beginning and then just go from there In the beginning Well, because when you were younger, right you had certain cartoons you watched, right, certain things you did. And as you grew up, true enough you watched other things, right, right and right, and then different type of tv, right you know. So I would have to say my one. It's hard to say, man, yeah, it's hard to say like I would say mash for me oh, I fucking love it is on the list.

Speaker 2:

That is yeah, it's either one or two.

Speaker 1:

Yeah it's in the top three yeah, at least yeah, you know, for for really, really good shows. And it's funny because I didn't like mash at first and then it grew on, because I started to pay attention, because what they say, exactly mundo right I was.

Speaker 2:

It was like watching a live cartoon, because the way he was acting and everything.

Speaker 1:

It was crazy. Yeah, it was a great show. The movie was freaking good too. The movie was yeah, but the show was totally different. Way different.

Speaker 2:

It took on a life of its own Right. It didn't really gear to that, yeah.

Speaker 1:

In the sense of the style, I mean. No, yeah, definitely, the show was just in a, just oh it was freaking great I love that show. I still watch it because they do it in reruns oh yeah, it's uh, I think we can.

Speaker 2:

So is it on me tv? I think it is yep watch it on me tv on me tv yeah go further back before our time. Pretty much that we would have had to, but we would watch. Right then you would watch tv that your parents already watched.

Speaker 1:

Now we're watching it right, yeah those were our cartoons, right, yeah, that too. But you had the Lone Ranger, lone.

Speaker 2:

Ranger, I remember that, so you had that.

Speaker 1:

So there's, you know, cowboy shows. For those that didn't know, don't know who Lone Ranger is, bonanza, yep, but they just did a movie not too long ago of a few years of uh long ranger, it was johnny.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, yeah, I wasn't bad it was?

Speaker 1:

yeah, it was all right. It was all right. Yeah, it wasn't the show, but the show, you know, it was kind of like that cheesy yeah, but I, you know it gave you some story to it you know, so it was pretty it was pretty cool, it was adventure. That's the time when tv was like supposed to be the adventure.

Speaker 2:

That was a yeah, the show was different. That was the movie, though. Right, you're talking about the movie, the show was also.

Speaker 1:

Well, no, because the show was also about, like you know, I'm saying adventure, like you know, little short stints of adventure. So it was the things that they had to do. They were saving a town. It was, you know, saving these people, right. Oh yeah, he always said he came in and saved the day Howl Silver.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, yeah. Kimo Asabi, oh, there's so many. I mean I got to.

Speaker 1:

You know what? I don't remember, yeah, so Then we go to All in the Family, All in the Family.

Speaker 2:

Awesome, for sure, yep. Good Times, good Times, love Good Times. Yeah, I watch it all the time, yep.

Speaker 1:

Yep, jefferson's, of course.

Speaker 2:

Yep, because that was so. All my children, George and me.

Speaker 1:

When the family started it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they came from that's where they started.

Speaker 1:

The Jeffersons were the branch off of that, so that was really good. I mean, it was for its time.

Speaker 2:

It was ahead of its time. For its time it was way ahead of its time for its time.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was. You know what I mean. And the things that were going on in that show are things that we deal with and see now, right, you know I'm a firm believer that history repeats itself. Of course you know what I mean. So every 20 years, or so, 20 depending- on where's his head?

Speaker 2:

it just comes back around and we get and then you gotta like yes, like yeah, no. We're tired of it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, exactly right. Yeah, we've done it already twice, right? You know it's like whatever, um yeah what else?

Speaker 2:

well, listen, let's just go through the list, screw it, yeah, and then we can just talk about as we go honeymooners, honeymooners pow bang, zoom right the moon.

Speaker 1:

Alice, yeah, bus driver. Uh, he was a new york city bus driver. Mambo, yeah, yeah, and it was the life because he never felt like he was ever making enough money of course, and he was.

Speaker 2:

He was living in this apartment with the worst refrigerator he could possibly have.

Speaker 1:

Yep, he was a genius in his own mind, right? Yep, alice was his wife. Best friend was the guy who worked in the sewers Norton, norton, norton. Come here, norton. Yeah, it's a good show, come on down. Then you had the Twilight Zone, that zone that would go on after that twilight zone. For me, if it's not number one, it's number two of my favorite shows of all time.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like, still, I think I've seen I'm close to seeing all every once in a while when I watch it on new year's yep. Um, and I watch it through yep most of the time. I know all of them. Once in a while there's one that must have slipped through somewhere that I didn't know about.

Speaker 1:

So I think I've only come across maybe three that in the past couple of years, that I didn't know, that I didn't see. But, man, if the twilight zone didn't teach you a fucking lesson, nothing will they were good stories. They were crazy stories amazing stories, and I don't care who says what. I believe that too, a lot of the shows the, the twilight episodes, twilight zone episodes, right have become movies like. So the yeah, is that what they did?

Speaker 1:

yeah, chucky annabelle, those are about the dolls oh my god and then they had the, the twilight zone the one with tully chavalis and he was it, yeah, and he tries to grind.

Speaker 2:

He's got the doll and he's trying to cut it off and she looks at him. Oh, yes, yes, I'm out.

Speaker 1:

Yep, I don't think I like you yes.

Speaker 2:

No way I love it, bro.

Speaker 1:

And one of my favorite ones was when they went to space. They would travel. It was the astronauts right Of course. One episode. I meant the astronauts from here the.

Speaker 1:

UFOs coming. Another and of course, one episode I meant the astronauts from here another I'm gonna take my other favorite one, but so the every time astronauts left earth and they went somewhere, they always had some kind of issue. They were scared, you know, or what they were going to find when they landed wherever. So it was the one when they landed on mars and the guy didn't want to open up the door to get out and he kept hearing tapping and the partner that he was with got hurt, right, and he didn't want to open the door to see who was out there because he was afraid. When he finally opened it up, it was humanoids out there, people that look like humans. Right. Long episode short.

Speaker 2:

I remember this one.

Speaker 1:

They take him out and he ended up being they put him on display like he was in a zoo. That they put him on display like he was in a zoo.

Speaker 2:

That was freaking awesome to me, Right? So he got to reverse what was going on, what we were doing to animals on our planet.

Speaker 1:

The one where the aliens came here.

Speaker 2:

the name of the episode was To Serve man Right that was the one with the soda shop or coffee shop. No, with the bus crashes or the bus stops and they have to, you know, no, no no, this was the one that the spaceship oh to serve, man to serve to serve man and the the.

Speaker 1:

I know what it says, yeah, I know what it says. And so they come in, they give the earthlings a book and they're, you know, telling them that these are the things that are going to help them prosper and it's going to make them great and, excuse me, it's going to be awesome and um crops and economical.

Speaker 2:

They did everything.

Speaker 1:

So after like a year or so, they saw that the people were. You know, the people saw what they bought them, that the aliens got them, that it was helping them out. There's food for everybody in abundance and everything is great. And when the linguist finally figured it out, you know, cracked the code of what the language was, they said don't get on it. What the language was.

Speaker 2:

They said don't get on, it's to serve man, whatever you do, whatever you do, dog and that's what the title was to serve man.

Speaker 1:

So they were making everybody, all the humans, fat.

Speaker 2:

So they could eat them when they took them back home in the spaceship. That was fantastic. That was a good one Yep.

Speaker 2:

So don't go in a spaceship yo they stop at a coffee shop, I think, either the bus I can't remember if they just stop or there's something wrong with the bus and they have to. Oh, it was snowing right, and they're in a coffee shop and they're looking for some kind of alien or something going on. They, you know there's yes, these guys are talking about it in it. Yes, so it wound up being both. Yep, that was yes, so it wound up being both Yep, that was a great episode too, that was a good one, right, the guy who takes his hat.

Speaker 2:

He's got the third eye.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, third eye right there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that was another good one.

Speaker 1:

Twilight Zone was the shit. Yeah, that was For sure, man. And they started new ones. I haven't got a chance to watch them yet. They're pretty good yeah. Some of yeah, he's, he's the one who's doing it. Yeah and uh, yeah, bro, I gotta see those. Those were fantabulous. So those are like the like slightly drama. So then action, a little bit more action. So I don't know if you remember bj and the bear. Of course I do, I freaking love.

Speaker 1:

My father loved that show that was a fantastic, I watched it because my father watched it.

Speaker 2:

I was a little kid when that show was on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we were little.

Speaker 1:

That was it. I loved that show man. So this guy big, driving a big rig truck across the country and he had a monkey, right, a monkey that was his chimpanzee, I believe him and he had all. And that was the only time that you ever saw so many hot chicks driving, trucks driving big rigs. Oh yeah, in that show every freaking woman was like yeah, bj, whatever you need right, yeah, it was, so the sexual overtones were crazy in that it was, it was so direct yeah, oh you know, and then some yeah and you know every one of them was like hot you know what I mean?

Speaker 1:

all of them were. Yeah, they were, they were all right, all that super sexy. I mean you're a little kid watching this you're like damn, what's up?

Speaker 2:

man um, yeah, that was a good one. Then you had Starsky and Hutch Starsky and Hutch was fucking awesome, bro.

Speaker 1:

There's just nothing else. That was like that great. You know, everybody tried.

Speaker 2:

Matter of fact, everybody played Starsky and Hutch All the time. Everybody did.

Speaker 1:

Running across. So when you see people now running over their hoods because they saw Starsky and Hutch, that's right.

Speaker 2:

Funny at the same time the way he did. They threw the comedy in and it was like a satire, is that?

Speaker 1:

the right word Yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 2:

It was perfect the way they did it they did it. They were the right two people to play that part. And then they actually made a cameo I don't remember In the movie.

Speaker 1:

Yes, they did. Yeah, the real stars Owen Wilson I don't know if Huggy Bear was in it or not, I think he was. I think he did a cameo.

Speaker 2:

Was he? I don't remember. He went to the bar. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, see, that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was awesome. Man, we're going to go stay that far back, bro, I keep going back. Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 2:

Which one do you want? No, bro, don't do the time if you can't do the crime.

Speaker 1:

I'm sorry I did it backwards. Don't do the crime. If you can't do the time, that's right. No, don't do, don't do it. Yeah, that was awesome show, bro. That was probably the big, the small. That was the heaviest hitting cop drama at that time yeah, that was a good show.

Speaker 2:

There was no other cop shows with the parrot. You know, we had the parrot, yeah or cockatoo, was it a parrot, or cockatoo was a cock show. There was no other cop shows that would do that With the parrot. We had the parrot. Yeah or cockatoo, was it a parrot or a cockatoo Cockatoo, it was a cockatoo Cockatoo, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I can't remember what the bird's name was.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

That was super deep drama that one and Adam 12.

Speaker 2:

Adam 12.

Speaker 1:

They did the.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I know, see, yeah, I still watch Adam 12. Every once in a while I'll catch it. And they did a lot of drug shows. Yeah, a lot of runaway shows.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, wife, there was spousal abuse. Yeah, I remember seeing a couple of those.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they had a lot of good ones. And then Beretta was more drug inner city.

Speaker 2:

He was more inner city yeah.

Speaker 1:

These drug inner city. He was more in the city. Yeah, these guys were like like, uh, yeah, yeah, you know, they had a couple of things out there, a lot of suicide stuff bro they had a few episodes that they were talking people literally off the ledge. You know, right, it was. There was some really I mean I watching it you know years they were like whoa, they were really deep they were they were really, really deep and they didn't say that marijuana was like the gateway drug.

Speaker 2:

No, but there was one show where a guy said you know, one day marijuana is going to be legal Right. And they say to him I think it was the same show.

Speaker 1:

It's like well, not now, not today, or something like that. So you're getting arrested and took him down, I think, yeah, I might be mixing up two shows. I think it was the same episode, was it? I'm pretty sure? Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, because they were trying to catch a drug dealer. Yeah, so there's been a couple they did she's funny how we remember that shit.

Speaker 2:

I know it's like in our brain. It's burnt into our brain Because that's what we grew up on no-transcript.

Speaker 1:

Having a monkey, that was more of that, you know. Oh my god, it's got to be cool. Life outside of this neighborhood is great, you know, and that's kind of what you were looking forward to do to be something like that, granted the reality but we knew it was bs, though, man, it was just tv. We liked right you know, you know, and then you had, but then when you had those hard-hitting shows that they were actually giving you, uh, I guess we'll say adam psa adam 12.

Speaker 1:

Adam 12 was another good one, bro. Emergency, emergency dude. I used to watch that all the time like I stopped. That was another one of my father's favorites yeah, oh my god, that's crazy, yeah, and that was a and that was a good one. That was about firemen, you know, and uh, just all the things, and that they had to go through yeah, but it was just, but it was entertainment.

Speaker 2:

It was good entertainment. You know, it was always. Somehow. They always fit in like a happy part at the end. Or they say this funny joke, or they whatever it is that they add into it the episode. Remember, it was always like that they crossed over adam.

Speaker 1:

Well, I think it was adam 12, adam 12 and emergency, and there was another.

Speaker 2:

It wasn't adam, you're're talking about man, you're making that shit up crossovers, where they were, you know at that time.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah because it was in the same city was in la, and I can't remember if it was adam 12 or the other cop show. I don't know, I don't think so there was some really good ones, man, there was some really good episodes of that too. You know, we got odd couple, odd couple. That was great felix and oscar madison oh, I love that show.

Speaker 1:

Awesome, awesome, awesome show. That was always funny, you know, and that was a good one. Like there wasn't that many um, it was good entertainment, you know, there was it't that many, it was good entertainment.

Speaker 2:

You know, it was funny yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was hysterical, it wasn't so you know, it wasn't so deep.

Speaker 2:

It had a serious tone to it too, because there was always something going on yeah Right, and a mix up, or you know the one time the they thought he took all his sleeping and they were like he even did the cotton. He's like what did you do with? The cotton when they finally figured out what was going on. He's like I used it for my ears Because he didn't want to hear anything, you know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God, that was a great show.

Speaker 1:

He had the super sinus issue.

Speaker 2:

Always had an issue Super neat all the time. Yeah, man, jack Klugman, oscar Madison Addison that was it Happy and peppy and bursting with love.

Speaker 1:

Remember that. All right, that was freaking hilarious.

Speaker 2:

All right.

Speaker 1:

That was the best, bro. Yeah, that was really great. Yeah, I loved all them shows, bro. All those shows are just. He said it was just so freaking cool watching them. And then, as we got older, that's when the future stuff.

Speaker 2:

Well then, the 80s kicked in because it was like we were launching 60s stuff in the 70s, right, right, and then there was our own 70s stuff too.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

And we can't forget this one, of course Six Million Dollar.

Speaker 1:

Man. It said da-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na, Da-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na of my dream of becoming a cyborg.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I used to want to have bionic legs when I was a kid.

Speaker 1:

I was like get up in the morning, yeah, and just everything would be like.

Speaker 2:

Run fast somewhere. Oh yeah, right, for those who don't know, a $6 million man, astronaut Steve Austin, got into an accident.

Speaker 1:

He lost an arm, an eye and a leg.

Speaker 2:

We can rebuild him. We can rebuild him, make him better than before.

Speaker 1:

Yes, and they gave him robotic limbs underneath his.

Speaker 2:

That's right. He looked like regular skin.

Speaker 1:

He looked like regular perfect limbs.

Speaker 2:

So now, he now becomes not a spy, but you know well, he, he worked, he's already worked for the government because he was an astronaut right. So now they need him to because he has these crazy powers now and whatever solve all the crimes you know he can, like he goes undercover. Yeah, it was great man.

Speaker 1:

My brother had the doll yeah, and picked up the motor. Did you have it with the with?

Speaker 2:

the eye, you can see in the back, you look through the eye, you can magnify everything. For the bionic eye yeah, absolutely. And then?

Speaker 1:

he got a sidekick. He got Jamie Summers.

Speaker 2:

And the dog. Well, yeah, but remember Jamie, she got into that accident.

Speaker 1:

That's how she got her bionics Right, so she Right.

Speaker 2:

And then she couldn't remember who he was. And they went through that whole whole issue and then eventually they whatever right, then they had the dog.

Speaker 1:

Remember the dog's name? No, what was that name?

Speaker 2:

max, oh max, enjoyment shipping, that's right. And who was in the six million dollar man, one of the best episodes, or most one of the most famous episodes I don't know which one he's talking about sasquatch. I don't know the bionic bigfoot that was oh, six million dollar, man yeah oh, I forgot about that. Yep, I forgot. That was a big wow, that was in Six Billion.

Speaker 1:

Dollar man. Yeah, oh, I forgot about that.

Speaker 2:

Yep, I forgot about that. That was a big, that was like a huge episode back then.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, holy shit, dude, that's a memory right there we're getting old, bro Dude, I don't know what you're talking about. You remember that I didn't.

Speaker 2:

I could keep going, man yeah, god, it's crazy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah man, that was awesome. I forgot about that mess Yep, knight Rider, knight Rider.

Speaker 2:

That was more. It was mid-80s. Was it 70s or 80s? Okay, 80s, yeah, 80s. All right, so we're. Oh yeah, I got you.

Speaker 1:

Didn't kick Michael Knight, my father liked that show.

Speaker 2:

Wasn't a big fan of it, though.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I, but I was digging it. Yeah, there's a dude around orange county up here that has one. I went to comic-con down in the city. He brings it. Does he bring it back? He has it over there. Yup, there's a guy in in pine bush and uh, that has a delorean, really, yeah, an official delorean. Bro, you can't touch the car because you're the oil in your fingers, wow I'm gonna mess it up. Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 1:

Bananas, yeah, but yeah. So TV shows that were I Dream of Jeannie. I Dream of Jeannie. Now you see-.

Speaker 2:

So now not that, See Look at you. That was a great show man, that was an awesome show I had to be God. I must have been like five or six when that show was on.

Speaker 1:

Right, yeah, it had to be, so I was All right.

Speaker 2:

That show was off the hook. Especially growing up, you're a little boy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, man Right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, not even then, but just the fact because when you're a kid-, automatically. But you love that show for a reason.

Speaker 1:

And you get older, you're like, oh, I dream of genie, I know why I liked so much. So my aunt may she rest in peace loved that show. So she wanted all of us because she was an elder sister, so she wanted all of us to call her grandmama, because that's what the mom, the grandmother in.

Speaker 2:

I dream of genie in.

Speaker 1:

I dream of genie you're not mixing bewitched no, no, that, no, that's Bewitched. Oh snap, you're mixing it up. That's wrong. Sorry, my bad.

Speaker 2:

Thanks for coming. This was a great show and have a good night. Ah, my God, that was me with her.

Speaker 1:

There you go, that's another good one. Well then, for that that's my grandma, my aunt. So that show I Dream of, jeannie, was the, the genie In the bottle Right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's how it works. They're in the bottle. You rub the bottle, it comes out of the bottle, or he would just call Jeannie Cause he was.

Speaker 1:

He was a military guy, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, if you would have done this song, then I would have remembered I would have gotten mixed up. Yeah, that's what it was, oh man.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, bro, that was a funny ass show too. Man, yep, dick van dyke, yeah, the dick van dyke show, yes, that was great.

Speaker 2:

I remember that it trips over the hassock.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that was another good show. That was funny and those now see now that's what they were showing that I believe they were making those shows to show where a woman's place was supposed to be. It was just not necessarily.

Speaker 2:

You don't think so, I don't think so.

Speaker 1:

That's how it was for that time, but they wanted to keep it like that, and that's what they when we watch.

Speaker 2:

TV. Now they portray what's going on, what's going on now, right, when you watch TV, right? So for that time they were doing the same thing, but they they were probably a little bit stricter about it, okay, because you know you had the two beds, you know it was separated, right, I love-.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they never showed them sleeping in the same bed.

Speaker 2:

I love Lucy. It was yeah. So everybody knew Ricky or somebody was sneaking in the bed somehow.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, somebody was sneaking in the twin bed. Godly, they each had twin beds.

Speaker 2:

So you know, for whatever reason they thought that would you know, like we can't have one in bed.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, no, you can't have them together because that was just chaos. Yeah, that's sacrilegious.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you can't. Then things change as they get progressed. You know now, look where we are now. Now you have, now you have the bra commercials that are on TV now, yes, because of these crazy bras the women have and it's without the wire, and then they're showing it to you on.

Speaker 1:

TV. I'm like I'm loving this TV, honey, oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

This is great, you're a crackhead. I said do you have any of those? Yeah, these look comfortable. Yeah, I like them, yeah. I think you should Matter of fact, we're going shopping tomorrow. Yeah, tomorrow, that's the funniest thing I ever do, oh man that is hilarious. But yeah, my point is that because things, how they progressed and where we are compared, to back, then Right. You can never do then what you're doing now, then yeah, no way, bro.

Speaker 1:

But have you locked up in an instant it would be considered a rated x movie yeah, it would be hardcore, considered yeah all day.

Speaker 2:

They'd be like yo, you gotta go away man, what you showed her underwear?

Speaker 1:

no way, yeah yeah, forget it and you know, really to me watching the history of television.

Speaker 2:

How it progressed.

Speaker 1:

How it's progressed, what they talk about and whatnot. You're like, whoa, it's come a long way. Absolutely. It really has been to me a learning tool, as funny as it sounds, like I said, there were some people that didn't know that that's what life was Outside of their neighborhood, off of their block, off of the suburbs or out of the city. You know, like that's the dream.

Speaker 2:

I want to be like that yeah well, what about when you see something like the honeymoon, it's right. So now here's a guy. He's a bus driver, he's trying to make a living right him and his wife and the line most of the time at the end of the show. It's always alice, usually calm making him understand and bringing him to his senses right, yeah so yeah even then they kind of pushed it a little too you know, I mean you know, I mean, but yeah, but it was funny because of the way they did it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so they made it where it was comedy right, the palopity episode.

Speaker 2:

He's gonna be on the game show and he was studying with orduvas yeah, yeah instead of hors d'oeuvres instead of hors d'oeuvres, said it's a poloponies instead of poloponies, right exactly?

Speaker 1:

that was awesome, man. Those but those. And oh, it's a corn apple. Yeah, and norton, that dude was insane bro yeah kept this video. Yes, oh, that was a great when he got the tv yes right, kept to be so honeymooners.

Speaker 2:

Ralph had a tv, but norton didn't, but he wanted to watch it, so Ralph needed to go to bed. He went to bed, whatever, of course. Norton's got the TV too loud, yep, and he's making all kinds of noise, yep, because they both actually Own the TV. I think, yeah, they both. They shared it, right, but it's in Ralph's house, right, of course, yep, yep. So he's sitting there with this helmet on like he's a 12-year-old and he's a grown man.

Speaker 1:

Kept the video. That was awesome, man.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, Black and white.

Speaker 1:

Black and white. Black and white yeah, so was the Twilight Zone.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So was the Lone Ranger, you know. So was. I Dream of Jeannie.

Speaker 1:

I Dream of Jeannie was in black, started out in black and white. So did, bewitched also, yeah right oh, we're forgetting the one.

Speaker 2:

Go ahead the most gilligan's island.

Speaker 1:

Gilligan's island yes, yes, I've seen the whole song. So seven castaways were stranded on an island. They went out on a yachting cruise.

Speaker 2:

Little thing, the boat crashes they're stuck and then they were done right on the island uh, the professor, marianne the millionaire and his wife.

Speaker 1:

the movie star, the professor and Marianne.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, here I'm going to get out here I'm going to get inside.

Speaker 1:

Awesome show, that was funny too. Great show Because all the trouble they got into.

Speaker 2:

But all half the shit could never really happen. They're making shit out of coconuts yeah, Like the. They're making shit out of coconuts yeah, Like the professor, like he was like where was this guy? How come he wasn't in NASA? Or something.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he should have been, because he was stuck on the island, I know. So then, with all the coconut stuff and everything that he did on that island and he couldn't make a boat or something.

Speaker 2:

Remember he had the bike when they were making their own power.

Speaker 1:

Yeah no there was they do. Yes, I saw the final episode where they actually get saved right, and then they end up going back to the island and they made it a tourist attraction. There you go. There was people on the back side of the island and they were like, what's that going on? Yeah, it was great. They made movies and that was the funny too. There was a few episodes where the other people got to the island and they never got rescued right and they never said anything about him being there.

Speaker 2:

Right because some people would let and they would get out.

Speaker 1:

But they wouldn't get out, they wouldn't leave with that right.

Speaker 2:

It's like what the hell's going on beth, they had to keep the show going that's what it was about and that's so many ways.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, you know, I always thought that I didn't, I like, I didn't, I like marianne better than ginger.

Speaker 2:

I always thought that Mary Ann was pretty. Yes, the country girl, I thought she was always prettier than yeah. If you're bringing it up. Yes, it's the same for me as well. Yes, yeah, not that I wouldn't hang with Ginger as well.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, no, definitely. But yeah, wifey material was Mary Ann.

Speaker 2:

I got you Understood.

Speaker 1:

Definitely that was the?

Speaker 2:

What was the one? What was the one? And he made the movie out of it with. I got it. I already found out.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, wild, wild West the Rolodex.

Speaker 2:

Wild Wild West.

Speaker 1:

Wild Wild West.

Speaker 2:

The original show, which was also in black and white.

Speaker 1:

Yes, it was.

Speaker 2:

And then was in color and he had that blue suit all the time. Yep, crazy knife in his boot. Yes that, I love that show All the things I'm telling you is mostly my father, except for the Honeymooners and all that other stuff. But most of those shows like that. Yeah, Maverick was a good show.

Speaker 1:

That was an awesome show. That was an awesome show. But Will Smith made they did a remake movie of Wild Wild West. Right, it was okay. Yeah, it wasn't too shabby, it was good.

Speaker 2:

I liked it because he had the crazy gizmos and everything and that guy who played the Southern guy he was in that crazy. I loved the way he spoke through that movie. He was just so rude and arrogant and well-spoken.

Speaker 1:

You know, yeah, and I was like it was awesome. It was awesome, that was a good TV show.

Speaker 2:

It was they did a decent job on it.

Speaker 1:

I would have liked to.

Speaker 2:

I yes right, but to be the way they had, the way they did it in the show yeah, because he was a spy right right. Basically he worked for the government.

Speaker 1:

He had his own train, right right, remember they got on there that would have been cool to make that into a like the original show, to do it like yeah, to kind of spin it off of that right kind of like they did with a team. Remember when they did a team and they made the movie. Yes, I loved that movie. Yeah, the movie was great.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the movie was good they did a great job on that movie and in the tv another tv show my father loved shot everything and everybody, and nobody ever got hit, nobody ever caught a bullet. Everybody was just like blowing things up around them and they would just catch everybody and round them up. Meanwhile there's AK-47s Nothing Throwing grenades.

Speaker 2:

Because they're special forces, bro. But the movie was more realistic.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the movie was way, way, way way.

Speaker 2:

The movie was better that way, because I mean what's TV, you know?

Speaker 1:

we got a budget. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2:

And now they you know that woman then he did the movie, then had the right people for it and everything. I like when they do that, you know they did.

Speaker 1:

They got good guys doing that absolutely liam neeson being the uh being um hannibal um. The fighter was ba barracus right um he was perfect for that rampage was his name?

Speaker 1:

yep, yep, and I can't remember the other guy's names. Yeah, wasn't me, bro, me either, but it didn't sound good. I know, maybe we'll just wait for them to go away, yeah, but yeah, man, we. I mean, like I said, there was a lot of good shows, yeah, a lot of good shows. I got more star trek. Star trek I'm, as far as I'm concerned, black and white, and then color, I believe. So I'm pretty sure you're right. Yeah, lost in space. Lost in space, that was another one. Yeah. So those were shows that were way ahead of their time as far as the technology and what they were saying could be, because, if not, I don't listen.

Speaker 2:

I'm a, I'm a star wars guy all day long right, okay, but you were checking to see if you had that shirt on martin.

Speaker 1:

You're like I don't know, yeah, yeah, making sure, no, no I had on trying to go to different t-shirts, but yeah, so if the phone was the communicator in star wars, so you open up the phone and that was a flip phone back in the day. Yeah, it started out as that big brick but it was still that.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, my I remember my cousin had one of those. Yeah, yeah, so that's where it originated from, and then, then it just progressed and went into its own.

Speaker 1:

And all this, all the little things that they did. So you know when it's about scanning somebody to see what was wrong with them Right. Laying them down on the table. Laying them on a table yeah, that's true kind of thing.

Speaker 2:

That was the cat well, well, but it was even farther than that. They actually had tables like that, like my son has a table when he had, um, cole son, um, they had this crazy like bed or blanket or something that was in there that they put on the baby and it would be able to take his breathing, his pulse. It had all kinds of crazy things that it would monitor yeah and it was like star trek.

Speaker 2:

I was like that's right out of star trek, because that's exactly how the table was. If you laid on it. It shows you your blood pressure it did all that right on the right, and that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

So they've already, they're already there, already star trek made, has given the the ideas or what have you?

Speaker 2:

I think all sci-fi does I just think that star trek. Oh, they were absolutely. Oh, they were Absolutely. Yeah, because even Lost in.

Speaker 1:

Space Lost in Space. There were things in Lost in Space that weren't quite reality.

Speaker 2:

Yeah it was more of a spoofy type thing, right, but it was still decent. It wasn't my favorite, but I actually liked the movie better.

Speaker 1:

Yes, the movie was fantastic Than the show.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and I'm sure people who loved the show back then loved the show better than they loved the movie. But for me it was different. I just couldn't, for whatever reason, I just couldn't get into it. The Star Trek was more my speed.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean. I loved the Lost in Space Again my father. Yeah, that was awesome. Damn your father and I, we would have been. Yeah, he loved all that stuff, man, I think he loved MASH too.

Speaker 2:

I don't know if he was a big fan of All in the Family, like we said earlier, but yeah, and my mother too, she loved all that stuff. They were always and you know TV was a big thing in our house, you know we'd look forward to. My father's favorite show was Charlie's Angels. Dude, come on, you can't go wrong with Charlie's Angels?

Speaker 1:

yeah, charlie's Angels, bro, yep, spies.

Speaker 2:

Well, honestly, the spies, they like work for a private agency well, they were police officers, but they're undercover, you know, all the time you know they're incognito they never got to object to me, charlie.

Speaker 1:

They had Bosley, but they never got to object to me, charlie yeah, bosley yeah, another show that was, you know, empowering women back in the day. In all honesty. I mean, you know the girls that they were actually able to yeah, it was badass Crime syndicate stuff and you know they were able to fight and they were actually smarter, but it was spoofy too, that one yeah there were some episodes that were Because Basi's the one who made it to spoof.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he put the comedy to it, Right, you know?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, a little yeah it was a good show First time. Yeah, it was, yes, it was.

Speaker 2:

That was definitely one of his favorites, for sure. No doubt about it.

Speaker 1:

Mm-hmm, child of these angels. Yeah, oh man, I just lost it. Rockford Files.

Speaker 2:

Rockford Files Wow, rockford. Files yeah, yeah, I saw it in my head.

Speaker 1:

I can hear the music, but I don't want to say it because I'm not sure if I get it wrong. Oh man, yeah, can I?

Speaker 2:

But I'm trying to. That's why I'm trying to get it right in my head. But I can hear it because I know the opening of the scene, when the show would start, so you can see it in your head. You know what I mean. It's like God, we have so much in there. You know, man, it's just like it's amazing. Yeah, you know, I'm like, I don't know it's in there.

Speaker 1:

I can't get it out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's not helping me any but it's definitely in there.

Speaker 1:

I'm a genius in my own mind right, exactly, exactly saying no, that was. But I mean. That's why I think, like I said before, those were shows, those were. That was an era in television that molded us, you know Right for sure. So much that we were, and it sounds crazy, as much TV as we watched was double the time that we spent outside. Yeah, we were out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, usually if we watched any of it, it was at night, when you're already in the house.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And usually if it's during the day, it was cartoons or something you caught after school.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, after school.

Speaker 2:

After school, you know, on the weekends, on the weekends, so you're used to being up in the morning watch the cartoons.

Speaker 1:

Conjunction function. Yeah, that now, too, you can stream it. That's great on disney plus. I think it is what's your function and those were things that we that was you were learning, you know like for that right construction junction, you know, and there was a cartoon how to make a bill um yuck mouth. Remember yuckman.

Speaker 2:

They call him yuck mouth because you don't they should bring that back, man, but no, we can't because there's no cartoons.

Speaker 1:

They don't have those side of them. We can't because there's no cartoons.

Speaker 2:

They don't have those Saturday morning cartoons so don't do it on cartoons, do it on social media. In other words, make your own version of it, start it up again, have them just reboot it, but put it on social media and then just throw it out there. People will see it. I've seen it a few times. People are like remember when we were growing up, when we had this.

Speaker 1:

You grew up. At this time this is playing. There is that lady that does it on social media, on.

Speaker 2:

Instagram, so people are seeing it, for sure. But I mean it would be cool if they could do that just to like educate people, because it was cool because it actually helped you when you were it how things worked in our government.

Speaker 1:

In the government how to read. You know how to speak, then we for that. You know, like I. So, jessica, my wife has a t-shirt that says these streets raised me. I grew up in these streets and it's Sesame Street.

Speaker 2:

Okay, yeah, you know what I mean. It's got a big bird and Sesame Street, the street grouch and all of them. Oh, that was a great show, man, yeah I think that might have started in black and white too, if I'm not mistaken I don't remember.

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna have to check that. I like the electric company better. That's what more like your company.

Speaker 2:

I love the lecture company hey you guys, that was rita morena.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yes, excuse me awesome, yep and um. So now there was the Wanderama.

Speaker 2:

So Wanderama was pretty groovy, bro Bro. I loved that show. That was cool. I always wanted to go on that show.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, me too, bro, because right there in the city I always wanted to go on, yeah, and that was a show. That was a kid's Phil Donahue, a kid's talk show. Oh, it was just a fun thing. Phil donahue, a kids um, it was just a fun thing. It was a fun thing, yeah, and they had. So it was the, the like I said it was the kids talk show. Excuse me, you know it had those episodes. It was, uh, you know the teach kids, you know there was education about everything on there and it was a game show all in one. They had all different things on there and the whole cast I mean, I'm sorry the, the audience was only kids. No, no adults at all, like the parents pretty much just dropped the kids at the front door and left. All the kids were always well-behaved. There was no bratty kids. Well, we didn't see any bratty kids. They edited them out. But Wanderama was an awesome show. That was another. Yeah, I love that show. That was on Sunday right, yes, sunday morning.

Speaker 2:

Sunday, right, yes, sunday morning. If I'm not mistaken, sunday morning yeah.

Speaker 1:

It was like eight or nine o'clock in the morning and you know what pissed me off, bro, many, many moons later. It's not anti-religious stuff, but I didn't know that, davey.

Speaker 2:

Davey, I was just talking about this with somebody?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, bro, are you kidding me right now?

Speaker 2:

I didn't know it was a religious show I did.

Speaker 1:

I always knew that I was just talking to tanya.

Speaker 2:

I think yeah I think we were just talking about davy, hey, davy, and we just read up on it. So davy was like more like his conscious, he would that so and he always helped them through stuff. You know what I mean, if you know. But you, the thing we talked about when we watched it, when we were talking about it, is that we noticed that it never really mentioned any religion when you were in there. It only showed you what the right or the wrong thing was and how to be a good person. It never mentioned God. It never did any of that. But you knew that the show was a religious show because it was affiliated with something. I forgot the church or what it was Right, but I do remember watching it. It was Claymation, wasn't it church, or it was Right, all that, but I do remember watching it. It was Claymation, wasn't it? Yeah?

Speaker 1:

it was Claymation, so see. So now I'm going to fast forward 100 years, because they did this on Adult Swim.

Speaker 2:

Oh no, they didn't, no, they didn't, no, they didn't.

Speaker 1:

He took all that stuff bro, and he made it into like, just like made it dirty. Hilarious, oh my God.

Speaker 2:

He, he sacrilegious.

Speaker 1:

It was perfect, cause it was everything. When you watched it as you after you grew up, I was so pissed off I found out it was religious. Yeah, that him turning around and messing with it and doing what he did. Seth Green oh dude, it was fantastic.

Speaker 2:

It must have blown your mind when you realized that.

Speaker 1:

You did not know that, did not know it, and I was so mad because I was like man, I was actually learning a God lesson and I didn't even realize it. You know, it was just, it was.

Speaker 2:

No, it really. It was very discreet on how he approached it. It didn't go. It was always the parents always talked to him and you always saw him talking to the dog when he was trying hey, we need to go back, or whatever it was going on. We need to go fix that.

Speaker 1:

Right, or you know yeah.

Speaker 2:

Or whatever the message was that they were trying to. But now I never really watched it all the time, but I do remember it was on and it was kind of creepy in a way too, though it was a lot of creepy. Creepy in a way too, though a lot of creepy. Yeah, it was still that like that, oh, I was stuck.

Speaker 1:

I'm sitting there watching this dog man. I was so mad that I found when that happened, when I found that out, bro, but there was a lot, and they said so they don't have any more the saturday cartoons the way that they used to. And so then, you know, classic tv, like that is, is null and void. You know, the show right just to just to have any of those things to To have. Like we said, we have to be now on social media. Metv, though, has a Saturday morning stretch to watch.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I believe, Like what cartoons and stuff.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, old school cartoons.

Speaker 2:

Oh man, looney Tunes is the shit. Yeah, bro, all right, and you know, not from nothing, go ahead, hold that thought. No, no, those were our parents' cartoons and they went to the movie theater and watched them when they were in the movie theater, before the movie started or in between movies that they went to see, like they would say oh, your grandmother gave me a quarter and I'd be gone for the whole day. I would see two movies this, that and the other thing. I'm like holy shit. And then we were watching their cartoons on TV so it was little shorts.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I love it, bro. Looney Tunes was the best everything Hanna-Barbera, cartoons too and we?

Speaker 1:

we didn't grow up violent or beating anybody up bro no, we pretty much didn't, not that you mentioned like seriously thinking about it.

Speaker 2:

You know, because you know how they are, about the TV shows and you gotta be careful violence but remember those were, they were really adult cartoons for their time? Yes, and when you listen to the humor for that time it was pretty risque too, some of the things they were saying, when you figure out what it was they were saying in the show, in whatever cartoon or episode you were watching Insane.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, great cartoons, but it was classic television, bro, that's right, that was classic TV, absolutely, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2:

That's just. That was classic TV, absolutely.

Speaker 1:

I'm sorry, that's just. I mean, it's crazy. People may want to say that we are at our age, hey listen, it is what it is.

Speaker 2:

This is who. That's our history, that's what made us, that's our history. That's what gave us the backbone to do things and you know, just to Generation X yo.

Speaker 1:

That's it, man. People are really scared generation. Why? Because we're not scared. I don't mean like you know, no, just yeah, yeah, yeah, not like that. I mean more like you know like how to be like that again.

Speaker 2:

You know like just, no, you can't be like that again. What you have to do is I think people should never try to be like anybody else. Right, fair enough. But how about just doing or taking that kind of formula and saying oh, you know what I like that way of that happening, but I'm gonna do it this way or that way, and you make it into your own thing? But you're using the same kind of yeah, you know, it's like. In other words, you're, you're, you're making it better, yeah, you know I, I would love to be able to see that happen.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean? Um, well, I mean even just those, those kind of tv shows. You know that classic tv, you know, with the ideas and whatever. I guess I'm lying. I feel like we're forgetting stuff too. Oh, dude, we're forgetting so many TV shows, Like we're going to get freaking text messages, emails, messaging and everything else with it with with TV shows that we forgot about. That we didn't even say you know, but again, it was what you and I were thinking about off the bat, just kind of running through, Right.

Speaker 2:

So here's another one. All right, because now I'm looking, because I'm like all right, we named a lot for what we remember right, and here's stuff we probably would have mentioned Merv, griffin, merv.

Speaker 1:

Griffin show Holy fee holies Bob Newhart. He just passed away Right.

Speaker 2:

He just passed away. Bob Newhart, he passed away. I was like, oh shit, he didn't die. Yeah, no right, I really did For whatever reason, I don't know why, Maybe because he was on the show with oh what the hell was the name of that show he played, this crazy guy. He played on TV.

Speaker 1:

I can't remember Well, he was an elf.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

He was his dad, sheldon. Oh, big Bang Theory. Thank you, yep, he was. I knew the show.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I couldn't figure it out. You had to say Sheldon. We knew who it was Sheldon.

Speaker 1:

Yep, yeah, I remembered that Mary Tyler Moore. Mary Tyler Moore show that was again, if you listen to everybody that was on the show. That was supposed to be the groundbreaking show for women empowerment, that women can go out into the workforce and they can be somebody and they can be worthwhile. Yeah, I know, holy crap.

Speaker 2:

We're looking at the time where we can start talking and it just flies. It's crazy. Well, here's a couple more before we go, because we're going to end it soon. Yep, um, the other one was. We did. I love lucy, right twilight zone. Yep, right, uh, gun smoke gun smoke, right gun smoke. Yep, have gun, will travel oh seinfeld, I guess you can see all in the family.

Speaker 1:

Yep, right, cheers cheers, where everybody knows your name.

Speaker 2:

Roseanne.

Speaker 1:

Roseanne Used to be good.

Speaker 2:

Good times. We already said that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

That was a great show. Man, I love that show. Yeah, yeah, that was a good show.

Speaker 1:

That's pretty much.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I'm sure there's stuff we're remembering and I'll hear it from, probably from my friend Frank, say you forgot to mention this one. I thought you would mention this one.

Speaker 1:

We didn't forget, it was just. There's so many great ones.

Speaker 2:

Oh God yeah.

Speaker 1:

We would have to sit here and just name all the shows rather than what they were Exactly. So now not changing the subject, but that when man Jimmy Kimmel Okay that he did the specials, that they did them live Right. Kimmel, okay that he did the specials, that they did them, live Right All my Children.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah. And the Jeffersons Right and they redid old shows, not All my Children, all my Family. All my Family, all my Children Fucking soap operas.

Speaker 1:

I know I'm stuck, that's another, but that's Classic.

Speaker 2:

TV, classic TV it's not on anymore.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, so yeah, but he did them live. So if you didn't see them.

Speaker 2:

They were pretty good I'll have to check it out yeah, they did them live, it was, it was good all right harrison was archie, well, and marissa tomei was edith.

Speaker 1:

That's right. Yep, yeah it was good.

Speaker 2:

Jamie fox was jamie's foxes. He was george jesperson. Yeah, I remember seeing that just actually just saw somewhere. It was a blooper where he was live. They showed it and he messed up on stage. It was that one. Yeah, it was that. Yeah, and it was cool. But it was cool as kid. He played it off great. It was perfect. People were laughing in the audience. That's the way it was when they did caribou net and all that other stuff.

Speaker 1:

A lot of caribou net oh, my god, great stand can't even forgot with that, though uh-uh, can't forget. Believe it. I see that he's probably.

Speaker 2:

This is probably the one he's probably gonna say.

Speaker 1:

That was the one I was gonna say you forgot to say that was a variety show. So variety shows back in the day were little shorts of funnies.

Speaker 2:

Hollywood Squares.

Speaker 1:

Hollywood Squares was the craziest. Hollywood Squares was a game show.

Speaker 2:

Then you had but it was funny as hell, always had good people on.

Speaker 1:

Always funny, and so was the Honeymoon, not the Honeymoon again, the Newlywed Game.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the Newlywed Game yeah.

Speaker 1:

Best Bob Anyway. So awesome show, brother man.

Speaker 2:

Yes, this was a good one.

Speaker 1:

Appreciate you.

Speaker 2:

All right.

Speaker 1:

Have a good one. Thank you for joining us. I got to go through all this stuff now because you got to move it over for Tom, because Tom's not here, so I'm usually just sitting straight in front of this thing. So, with that being said, thank you all for listening.

Speaker 2:

Love, peace and egg, grease, go vegan.

Speaker 1:

Yes, Tom, we got you baby.

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