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Chasing Explosions and Embracing Heroes: A Nostalgic Dive into Action Movie Icons and Their Timeless Impact
What if the action movies of your youth could teach you something new today? Join us as we embark on a nostalgic journey through our top five action film picks, starting with the legendary "Terminator 2." Relive the adrenaline-pumping chase scenes and cutting-edge special effects that set a new standard for the genre. We'll also take you back to the days of Movie Phone, exploring our mutual love for "The Matrix" and dissecting the unforgettable elements that made these films stand out.
We also turn our attention to the timeless realms of sci-fi and horror. Imagine the contrasting timelines of the Star Trek series, from the Chris Pine reboots to the classic "Wrath of Khan." Brace yourself as we delve into the terrifying world of "Predator" and compare it to the iconic "Aliens" series. And of course, we couldn't ignore the death-defying stunts of the "Mission Impossible" franchise. We'll give special kudos to Tom Cruise's fearless performances, including those nerve-wracking high-speed motorcycle chases.
Our adventure doesn't stop there. Celebrate the legacy of 80s and 90s action heroes with us as we discuss Arnold Schwarzenegger's unforgettable roles in "Predator" and "Commando," along with Sylvester Stallone's gritty "First Blood." We'll also share our thoughts on the "John Wick" series and its innovative action sequences, the cult classic "Warriors," and the intense bomb scenarios of "Die Hard's" third installment. To wrap up, we're opening the floor to your feedback and movie memories, with the promise of a Mailbag 2 episode to come. So buckle up and enjoy this action-packed episode!
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Gottman Crawford and the Jersey Guy podcast.
Speaker 2:Hey everybody. Kenny Gottman Lewis.
Speaker 1:Crawford and I'm Tom Ramage, the Jersey Guy.
Speaker 2:What's up, my fellas? How you doing. Very good, everybody good, everybody chilling, chilling, chilling, chilling like the wheeling Good, which button did you hit?
Speaker 3:Did you hit the broom button?
Speaker 2:Sound effect on there or something? No, sound effects. Is this one? No, that one's gone.
Speaker 1:So today we're going to talk about action movies we're going to talk about All three of us are going to have our top fives. We don't know what it is. Yeah, so some may overlap. Yeah, I expect some to overlap. It's got to be.
Speaker 2:But yeah, so it has to be Well, I guess we'll go.
Speaker 1:I'll go in order.
Speaker 2:So you want to go first you go first yeah, all five of them.
Speaker 1:No, no, no one at a time the first one, and then kenny, and then we'll just go in. So, uh, most of my movies are going to be retro movies because that's that guy.
Speaker 2:So my first one is terminator 2 there.
Speaker 1:It is not not the first one, the second one. The second one, I think, was the best of the of them all that had everything, I don't know just everything. Everything about it was just such a good movie. Yeah, you know what. There's also a nostalgia factor there, for me too.
Speaker 3:Which one Terminator you said Terminator 2.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, the second one was the best one. But I still like the first one because it was the very first one, but I liked the second one better. And I loved it when I first saw it when it came out and I'm like sequel better, but that one yeah. Yeah, that was yeah, the first one is important.
Speaker 3:Absolutely. That's what got me to want to see the second one, because I was like why it came out years later? It didn't come out right away.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:When you think about it. Yeah, it was. I think Terminator 2 was no and no.
Speaker 1:In the first Terminator.
Speaker 3:I remember what movie theater I saw that in too, the one in Sheepshead Bay, brooklyn, the one right off the Bell Parkway UA Theater, united Artists Theater.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I knew the hotel. I'm like yeah, no, no. There's a hotel next to it. What are?
Speaker 1:you talking about. I went to Cineplex Odeon Route 4 10th. If you know the name of the movie you'd like to see press 1.
Speaker 2:Oh my.
Speaker 1:God, that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 2:And welcome to Movie.
Speaker 1:Phone brought to you by the New York Times and 102.7 WNEW.
Speaker 2:Wait, wait hit it again we forgot what time we didn't hit what time. So, those who don't know, that was how we used to find out the movie times.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we used to call up and get the recording. That's how you get. There was no internet.
Speaker 1:Like you, called this number a movie phone. Yeah, we have landlines.
Speaker 3:Five film. That's what it was. That's the only phone we had. We had the landlines with the real or no, it was 777 film. Well, 91 we had cell phones.
Speaker 2:But that's funny. But yeah, terminator 2, bro, that was a good flick. What was your favorite part?
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 3:The homo was great.
Speaker 1:I mean the chase scene with the tractor trailer was great.
Speaker 2:Oh bro, that was freaking the best. That was a good chase scene yeah.
Speaker 1:And also the chase scene, when he gets frozen and forms back together yeah. And that sound yeah.
Speaker 2:That was a good one, bro. Yeah, that was a good movie. That was a good movie. What's his name? It was a good.
Speaker 1:I guess it was.
Speaker 2:Sideboard. No, not Arnold, the other one. Who's the cop? Oh?
Speaker 1:I forget what his name is. Yeah, he's one of the actors that's always typecasted as a cop or a military.
Speaker 3:So that would be a number one, number one, that would be his number one, your number one, yeah that's my first pick. Yeah, what's your number one first pick? No, no, you got to go, man, I don't. These are not.
Speaker 1:Going in the water For me. These aren't in my top, it's just I group them all together.
Speaker 3:I. It's one of the movies you like. That's fair enough you can't really pick one of them than the other, because if you like a certain movie, you like it for a reason usually you can't compare it Unless they remake the one. Try to remake the one of the same thing you just had, and now you're like oh man, they fucked it up. But yeah, I get what you're saying who's next, who's going next?
Speaker 2:For me. Me I thought that was a pretty cool flick that was an action movie was the Matrix.
Speaker 1:I think that for me that's an overlap on me but then I like the first Matrix.
Speaker 3:I have Matrix too.
Speaker 2:Matrix part 2 or Matrix 1. So Matrix 1 was a good one.
Speaker 1:Part 2 was a little bit more action packed, so we're going to talk more about this one, since we all three of us yeah.
Speaker 2:So now, which one are you thinking? Matrix, one or two?
Speaker 1:Oh, you know one, one, one. I mean two, delve more into the like oh we're in a program now, so now.
Speaker 2:like we've in a program now, so now like we got the back door system yeah, you know, because that one they need keys and yeah, agent.
Speaker 1:Smith was copying himself yeah, onto things.
Speaker 2:That was insane. He was control, but the fight scenes were more intense in part two. Yeah, especially the one in the park yes, that was my favorite dude because I mean the way he picked up the, especially the one in the park. Yes, I, that was my favorite dude Cause I mean you hear that. Yeah, that was the way he picked up the, um, the, the ground, and he swings it around and you hear the. I don't know if you ever paid attention.
Speaker 3:Well, first it had the concrete on it first, and he swung it.
Speaker 2:And he smashed it off.
Speaker 3:And then he had the pole he was like shit.
Speaker 2:I was in my house, don't, don't, don't. I'm like fucking what. 40 years old when that movie came out and what it was. And I'm in my house swinging my denny flies yeah, swinging at the kids, me and my son jason, we were just fucking matrix hilarious man. It was fun that was definitely a good movie yeah, everything was matrix, so everybody did the little fall back and whatnot.
Speaker 1:Like you know, that's that and that that scene was like used so much, so many times after that, because it left such an impression that there were so many spoofs on it and all that.
Speaker 2:But that was the beginning of that kind of CGI in the movies.
Speaker 3:You move like them. Huh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you move like them.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's right. How'd you do that? Yes, Mr.
Speaker 1:Anderson and the second one. They definitely did more special effects too. I remember the scene when Trinity's falling and shooting. That wasn't even her.
Speaker 2:That was all computer graphics All computer stuff yeah. But that was the first time where they made CGI look fucking real and which one no, when Trinity was falling out the window, so they redid it. And then Neo comes and he catches her.
Speaker 1:That was all computer graphics that.
Speaker 2:That was all computer stuff, really.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. Not even like her. There wasn't even her, that wasn't even her like shooting the scene.
Speaker 2:And falling off something. Yeah, no right, that's pretty interesting. That was listen. It looked good. It looks seriously good. That was one of my I. That's a really good action movie to me, like I thought that was pretty daggone groovy. You know just, I guess because of the cgi they were able to take it that next step to make everything else right, you know.
Speaker 3:And then everybody started doing it right they all started, you know when they did a lord of the rings and all of that good stuff yep, and then I'm gonna renege on that.
Speaker 2:In a minute after I'm coming back, my turn again all right, yeah what?
Speaker 3:because I messed it up for you no, no, no, no, no I'm sorry bro, no, no, it had nothing to do with you, so mine. I have a few, but I have to go with this one. First, wrath of khan star trek yeah, star trek.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a throwback. Yeah, yeah, that was a good action movie too. That was great, that was a good movie. Yeah, fucking kirk bro, that guy captain kirk was like a poor you keep missing the target. So now, what was your favorite part of the movie, though? Like what was your most like?
Speaker 3:oh, the whole movie was great. I like you know, when they have, you know they fight each other and he gets to. I think the favorite part is when Khan gets him.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:Right, and they go to talk to him and he realizes it's Khan, and then he's talking to Spock and to what's her name? Sarek.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:And he's telling her what to do and he's like, he's like the prefix code and she's like, he's like, yeah, he goes if he doesn't know what it is already like. In other words, he's that smart, you got to be careful.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:She's like why he says you have to know why things work the way they do on a starship. You know I'm a geek, I love that movie you know what I mean. It's a great movie. So then he goes here, they come, you know, like he's talking and he's like he takes his glasses off and he goes to town on them. He said open fires on them and they're trying to find out how to override it, but they can't in time. So they're like Captain, you did it.
Speaker 3:I did nothing, I just simply got caught with my britches down. So I know the movie like in and out man. It's crazy. But it's a great movie, though, Even back then the-. I was going to ask you, it was the old one, it was the older one, okay was one which wasn't great, but I still watch it till this day. But the second one was one of my favorites.
Speaker 2:That was really good did you watch the new one with Chris Pine? Oh, all of them yeah the Wrath of Khan with Chris Pine oh yeah, that one yeah absolutely. Those were good too, because it was a different timeline. It was a different timeline that was a good, good action one too. So yeah, that was, that was a good one.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so that would be my first one for that.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right, go ahead.
Speaker 1:Dylan, you son of a bitch Predator.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Fucking Predator.
Speaker 1:That is like one of the yeah, that movie. I think they definitely out. Of the two movies, Alien's not my pick, but I'm just saying because they both and it's funny because they both are in the same universe as the Aliens, Right? Both those two movies, I believe, and they both came out in a similar time they actually changed the whole sci-fi. They made more of a sci-fi horror type movie. They did so. Predator was more of a sci-fi horror type movie they did like. So like, predator was more of like a slasher movie. They did a slasher movie, but with a fucking alien who's uh, like hunts people you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Right, but that's it, because they mixed it was aliens and predator was the uh.
Speaker 1:Later on, they mixed, yeah right that's the first time you ever seen like cloaking in a movie so I have to.
Speaker 3:I have the one you just mentioned. I have aliens as one of mine. We'll get into that.
Speaker 1:When it comes to me, we'll get into it. It's the first time you see someone cloaked. He's fucking. He didn't do it in the first one, the Predator, but was he flaying people in the first one or that was in the second one? He was what.
Speaker 3:Flaying like skinning people. No, he did. Yes, he pulled the spine out of the one guy in the trees, but not flayed them.
Speaker 1:He just removed their skin.
Speaker 3:No, he just took the spine right out of his body.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so Aliens came out in 1986.
Speaker 1:He was killing people in such horrific ways man. Oh my God bad when 80, when it come out in 86 and predator came and predator came out and but yeah, it was just. It was just such a cool movie and you know it's got arnold in it 38 years ago get to the chopper get to the chopper 80 ugly motherfucker.
Speaker 2:What predator was in 87 87?
Speaker 1:so it was right after yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:so boom, boom, and then they just started to build off of that. They built off of that, yeah, and I'm going to tell you what Everything. After that, they had those of some pretty spiffy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm a big big fan of those, Of what?
Speaker 2:Predators, predators. No, did you see the other Predators when they took them With the super. Predator. That was like was a cool one. That was a pretty good one. What?
Speaker 3:about the guy who gets the suit, the last one that they had with the. That's the one he's talking about.
Speaker 1:He gets his suit and he can be a predator. What about the one where they're dropped off on the planet?
Speaker 3:that's the other one, predators, that one was cool.
Speaker 2:Predators that was. Ah shit, I just had his name Fung. That played in that movie that he was.
Speaker 1:He was Adrian Brody yeah, adrian Brody, remember the. I didn't think it was that great, but the Aliens vs Predator movie I liked it, though they were it was only good because it was.
Speaker 3:It was that that comic book mix that they did with it so you couldn't really take it serious because you knew the stories were different and they didn't coincide with one another, as far as at least the way I look at it right, as far as you know, predators and aliens you know a lot of people they, um, they, they, they were, they were like, saying like, oh, those predators weren't tall or whatever you know, but the thing is they failed to learn is that those were youth predators.
Speaker 1:They weren't right, they were like.
Speaker 2:They were like, uh, adolescents yeah, they weren't, they weren't full belts yet, so they were shorter right because they're like 8 feet tall. Holy shit, fucking sick bro. Those are good ones, those are excellent ones. 8 feet tall they're ceiling height.
Speaker 3:That would be scary, that would be super crazy. What about you, man? What's your second one?
Speaker 2:Mission Impossible. I love Mission. Impossible, tom Cruise every single one is like that super action. He's crazy, that guy dude, he's fantastic, he does these stunts. He doesn't, he doesn't care, he just does them he's amazing, this guy yeah, tom Cruise doing all of those are where it's at remember the first Mission Impossible.
Speaker 1:That was another scene that was an iconic scene in a movie that they used so many times the scene where he's in the computer room and he's on the first one, oh yeah, fly holding over.
Speaker 2:suspended over. Remember when he catches him he catches his sweat.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that scene was used so many times in movies too.
Speaker 2:That was a good movie, awesome flicks, like all of them. The reason I can't think of any one that didn't have that groovy super action scene. You know whether it was him fighting, whether it was him getting into whatever um, you know, trying to sneak into a spot or holding anybody hostage. Me, I'm a motorcycle guy, so there was the one when they were in dubai and rogue, the mission impossible rogue man. They're just flying on their motorcycles on the highways in dubai. I'm like I'm dipping with them and everything. This is great. I love this shit. Yeah, man, I love it.
Speaker 3:That was yeah, those movies are good and he puts his heart into him.
Speaker 2:Even now he's still, uh, doing them, yeah, at the age he's at yeah, he just I won't come out and but then now sidebar real quick, everything he does, because that's the same thing he did in top gun. So did you see part this?
Speaker 3:I saw the second one. That was a good one new top gun.
Speaker 2:Listen, that was a great fucking sequel too.
Speaker 1:Like that was you know and not the same action. Tom Cruise man, he's so crazy, he's like I'm only going to do another Top Gun movie if we actually are in the fucking plane and he did it and he flew and he had everybody, but he didn't actually fly.
Speaker 3:He was in it, but in the plane he was in the plane, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's what I mean.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's right, because I forgot how they did it, but they did it in a way. But he did fly certain planes they were allowed to fly that were like but he but when he goes into the ones like the Navy do right, right, yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, he's not flying those, yeah.
Speaker 3:But those are kind of the ones that they're using in the movie. I mean, those things are bad-ass. And he tells the story where, when he takes off and he's puking at the same time, and then he comes up back.
Speaker 2:That's nasty.
Speaker 3:You know, like because he guns it. You know, and it's happening, you know because they give you bags. You've never been there because you know you're going to get sick man. They're going to fucking rock your world.
Speaker 2:Hold on, yeah, that's fucking great you wanted to do this, yeah, but that was my mission Spinning, yeah, imagine, oh my God, barrel rolls and shit. I'd probably pass out.
Speaker 3:Be like yeah.
Speaker 2:People on those. Yeah, those ricochet rides when they shoot them out, yeah, the faces just like.
Speaker 3:My eyes rolling behind my head Hell yeah, dude.
Speaker 2:Yeah, mission Impossible is dope. Mission Impossible is on my fucking list. Yeah, he does a good movie.
Speaker 3:And the story's changed, so I like that too Right.
Speaker 1:At least they're not. You know they matured. Yeah, yeah, yeah Right. He does good jobs. You said you were going to go with Emily.
Speaker 3:I'm going to go with Emily because that was one of my favorites when I saw that movie. I saw it at the Fort Wayne, no at the Marlboro.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:No, the Walker Theater on 18th Avenue.
Speaker 2:Oh, no kidding.
Speaker 3:Yes, sorry, I had to go to my movie theaters because I have so many. It's in Brooklyn that we went to. So the Walker Theater. I saw that movie. I think it was with Bobby Ferraro, I might have been with Darren too. We went to great. That movie blew me away, man the aliens, because the first one I saw, alien when I was a kid. And then Aliens came out and that was just like it was war, like it was like you know, these things were like merciful, they just didn't. They would tear you apart, man. You know they were scary. It was a good movie, man, yeah, and I've seen that in the theater back then and the special effects for that time.
Speaker 3:Even now when I watch it, it's still good right you know, even though it's an old movie, it's still a good movie yeah, you know it is and it's going away, but she was hot, so well, it's tied into so many other ones now, because then it great actress, of course yeah, oh, the Prometheus, prometheus.
Speaker 1:Yes, what came after Promet?
Speaker 2:what was this? I don't remember the next one because I never got a chance to watch it, because I didn't watch it but yeah, but all of them coming to play man there's another one coming out.
Speaker 1:Yup, there's another one coming out yeah but I forgot if it's a.
Speaker 3:I don't know which order it's in. I have to look and watch the promo so I understand where it's coming who did that.
Speaker 2:they have them in order. As to how they happened, right, I don't know. That's a good question. I'm going to check that out.
Speaker 3:I forgot which stream, but the Alien movies were always good. Yeah, they were always good, even when they brought Ripley back and they cloned her and all that, and you see all the crazy clones. That didn't work.
Speaker 1:Oh my God man, but that's another movie. That was a horror movie.
Speaker 3:It was Aliens, scared the shit out of me.
Speaker 1:Horror movie and sci-fi movie I saw.
Speaker 3:Alien. In Maryland, my grandmother took me and she was knitting while she was watching the movie. She wasn't even faced when she watched this movie. She was like it's garbage. She's knitting a sweater, Whatever the hell she was knitting, and I was scared out of my mind. I'm like what the hell it?
Speaker 2:Whatever the hell she was knitting and I was scared out of my mind. I'm like what the hell? It was like 12, I think when that movie came out. That's fucking hilarious, it was crazy. That's great, yeah, that's great oh here we go.
Speaker 1:All right, we're moving along, so I go through them too fast.
Speaker 3:No, no.
Speaker 1:I'm going to go with Indiana Jones. Oh, that's a good one, very good one I don't think I could pick one, I'm going to say the original trilogy.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to include the new ones, the new ones were good, but I want to say that's Raiders.
Speaker 1:In fact, the first movie was just called Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Speaker 3:It wasn't even Indiana Jones. Yeah, that was a great movie. I remember when I saw that movie. Great movie that movie.
Speaker 1:Saw that movie, great movie. That movie. They got temple of doom and then well, the third one's probably my favorite.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was that was the, because you get to yeah, I was watching it the other day too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, where is?
Speaker 2:it who has the chalice?
Speaker 3:yeah, it's right there.
Speaker 2:It's over there the rabbi's sitting in oh there, it is okay we have the rabbi sitting in the chalice. It was on the other day, though that oh yeah he's gonna grab it.
Speaker 3:Yeah no.
Speaker 2:I mean.
Speaker 1:To me that movie Was just a good.
Speaker 2:The Indiana Jones movies.
Speaker 1:They had so much adventure. There it is. That's Mench on a Bench. We got him in the cup.
Speaker 2:Put him on top.
Speaker 1:That's the holy grail.
Speaker 2:That's gonna fall in the cup.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but that's, that's the that's the.
Speaker 2:That's the Holy Grail.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's going to fall, that's going to fall, make sure you get your mic back, because no one's going to hear you with the mic. You got to move it up, yeah, yeah, my bad. I'm sorry people, but yeah the the Holy Grail.
Speaker 2:They were really good action flicks they really were.
Speaker 3:And when they came out with the fourth one where they were looking for you know where he was getting it was at oh god, with the alien, you go to the jungle. Which one was? The third one, the fourth one, where they?
Speaker 2:he goes to. The third one was his father no, that was yeah, how many of there was, like what?
Speaker 3:five of them six of them yeah. I can't believe. I can't remember this one because it's one of my favorite ones.
Speaker 1:Raiders of the Lost Ark movies oh, oh, you mean the Indiana Jones movies? No, there was three. And then the Crystal Skulls, crystal.
Speaker 3:Skulls. That's the one and that is the new one right coming out or is that?
Speaker 2:no, the other? Yeah, that was a good one I liked the Crystal Skulls. Crystal Skulls wasn't like an alien.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was At the end. You remember when the saucer came out. When they had all the gold and they had everything sitting, and then it just, I forgot about that. Because they had to have all of them on the ship. Yeah, that's right, I forgot about that. And that was telepathic, Remember you could right but the original Raiders of the Lost Ark. That was such great movie, one of my favorites. I watch it every time. If I see it on TV, I'd leave it.
Speaker 1:I watch it oh yeah, like when they the best is the end, though, when they open up the thing and he just turns like super don't look at him, close your eyes.
Speaker 2:Yes, don't look at it. Yeah, that was good. Yeah, she's screaming. That was really good.
Speaker 1:They just start aging rapidly.
Speaker 2:Isn't that what happens? You're not supposed to look at it.
Speaker 1:No, that's what happened to the. That's in the other movie, that's with the chalice. Yeah, and he drank it. The other one was pick them up and just disintegrate it and shit, that's right. Yeah, you had the.
Speaker 3:Nazis and whatnot. Yeah, that was yeah, yeah, when, the, when the Ark is in the box and it's got the Nazi writing on it and you see the fire burn.
Speaker 2:it's like yeah, I'm like, oh it's nice oh. Yeah, no, don't play around. Yeah, that's going to be that was good.
Speaker 3:That was a very good movie. It was one of my favorites man all three of them actually were and Temple of Doom was good too. It was good it was good I mean that movie, saw that at the Fort Worth a lot of grotesque stuff, though, no wait.
Speaker 1:Lois Oriental we had HBO and that used to come on HBO all the time. Temple of Doom.
Speaker 2:I remember seeing that, just like that scene and you know what's funny?
Speaker 1:When I saw that movie I thought that's what Indian people eat. It was just fun to the opposite, because most of them are vegetarian.
Speaker 3:Right. Wow, that's crazy. But.
Speaker 1:I was like man. They eat monkey brains and they eat, you know, snake Snake. Surprise, they cut the snake open.
Speaker 2:It's just bugs come out.
Speaker 3:It looks like fucking what's-his-name from Nightmaremare Before Christmas remember when he's in the thing and it's gonna crush him, and she's like. He's like put your arm in. She's like and it's got all the bugs. He's like pull the lever. She's like oh my god, I'm like, sorry, andy, you're dying. I'm not putting my arm in that fucking shit, you're out.
Speaker 1:So much grotesque stuff or like this when buries his hand in the guy's chest oh yeah, oh, that was crazy, and it's like linked somehow, like as the guy's burning alive, the thing just starts catching fire.
Speaker 3:Yeah yes, yeah, some crazy voodoo shit is what, that is no doubt because the guy's heart's racing.
Speaker 2:Those are good movies. Yeah, absolutely. That was a whole bunch of good, good action.
Speaker 3:That always good, because even when they come on, like if you just scroll you're just kind of flipping through the channels. And that one because you're like, oh, I'm done I'm good, I'm gonna watch that same with, uh, you know, any movie that you like you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah oh yeah, pretty cool, I love it what you got, what's next on your list?
Speaker 1:so?
Speaker 2:going along with your predator was commando wow, commando that you like that you thought you like that one.
Speaker 3:You thought you liked that one, I liked that one.
Speaker 2:That was pretty cool because you know that was also Arnold being a little bit more than just you know, the regular actor he started to. He's doing more gun stuff. Yeah, more fighting. Yeah, you know more running around, so it's, that's what.
Speaker 3:He held what's his name? Over by his leg right and then just dropped him. He ripped the sheets out of his car. I lied, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I lied.
Speaker 1:I lied, that was great that was a good one when I said I wouldn't drop you.
Speaker 2:I lied, I lied yeah, now that would be. And two, that was him with an actual story. You know, it wasn't like I'm just doing the Conan or whatever right, he had a story too yeah, but I mean like it was, it was to me just more of a realistic, I guess right, I got you it was him gonna go save his daughter.
Speaker 2:He was an army guy, military guy, and he's going out to go save his daughter, alissa milano, you know, and uh, wow, I forgot about that, yeah, running around to go and, you know, save her, and going against the crazy looking bad guy and shooting up everything and right, he killed the guy in the in the airplane and just left him in coach he covered him up.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I remember, that was great scene.
Speaker 2:That was a great scene man, those things you know, shooting and whatnot.
Speaker 3:That was I like he jumps out of the plane.
Speaker 2:He's on the tie on the on the tires and he has to jump into the water swamp and just yeah, oh god at the end of the runway someone said something.
Speaker 1:They said I read somewhere, I think it was in Reddit or something like that Someone said like Prime Arnold Is like 1983 To 97.
Speaker 2:Really, those years Is when he was in his prime To 97, holy shit Wow.
Speaker 1:Those were his prime years After that you know.
Speaker 2:He did movies, but they weren't like His prime action movies.
Speaker 1:He was Mr Freeze.
Speaker 2:I think that's where he fell off. I think that was where he started to go downhill after that. He should have done that movie.
Speaker 1:Everybody wanted to get on the Batman movies, but they started getting bad.
Speaker 3:They just got worse, they got ridiculous.
Speaker 2:They started getting too Hollywood, too Hollywood. They were trying too hard.
Speaker 3:They were getting campy. They were getting too comic bookish with it, right.
Speaker 1:But not even comic bookish Like overboard Cartoony.
Speaker 3:Cartoony and not animated series Cartoony. Right Cartoony.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, if they were like the animated series, that would have been. Yeah, that would have been great, that would have been great, that's true.
Speaker 2:And a regular yeah, but yeah, commando that was a good, that was a groovy action.
Speaker 3:Flick to me I like yeah I would have to say that I like it a lot.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yeah, your turn first blood, wow wow, I knew, I knew someone's gonna pick a rambo wow, I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 2:One shits kebab dude. You got me on that one isn't that the name of that?
Speaker 1:it's not called Rambo, it's just First Blood. It was not called Rambo. Oh, it is.
Speaker 3:Rambo yeah, rambo, first Blood, but it was always First Blood it was First Blood it was First Blood, but it was Rambo, and then they started using Rambo.
Speaker 2:I thought Rambo was the first one. Rambo, first Blood. I thought, that was a good action flick, you know, it really is the real movies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's something about him. You know what I mean. It's just you know even his story arc before he, like you know, before he starts like getting into the action you know, is, like you know, getting into it, and you know. The show is whole.
Speaker 2:And all the Rambos.
Speaker 1:All the Rambos.
Speaker 2:Even the last blood. Did you see this last one?
Speaker 1:I saw John Rambo this last one that came out was bananas.
Speaker 2:He's fighting the cartel and shit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I saw that one.
Speaker 2:That was the goriest one.
Speaker 3:He almost dies in that one too, doesn't he? I don't know if he almost died, but then he's coming out. Isn't he coming out with another one? Right now too? There's another one coming out.
Speaker 2:I think you got me I don't know it's like it's getting a little if he didn't die in that last one, bro, because all they showed him was riding off into the sunset, right, he got his ass kicked and, yeah, all shot up or whatever so I don't know how far off into the desert he fucking made it, but it was uh wow, that was pretty brutal, that movie.
Speaker 3:He had the tunnels and everything under the ground, freaking property.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude, that was a really good movie, that last one, but rambo. The first one, that was yep, first blood, that was some good piece of we're hassling him.
Speaker 3:Yeah, get some out into the forest yeah, it wasn't even his fault, man.
Speaker 2:It wasn't even his fault man. It wasn't even his fault. No, it wasn't even. They should have just fed him and then taken him out to the line. You know what I mean? The conning line. But fucking asshole bro. Yeah, what was the guy? Listen, the cop was a douche to him the cop was just insane.
Speaker 3:Yeah. There was no reason that was the whole point of the movie and they were all like you could see, you know, like they were all like that, that mentality of the Vietnam vet or something. It was kind of what they were.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:You know it's just, but we don't. Fortunately we don't do that anymore. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:We look up to our vets and appreciate everything they do for us, you know, but those Rambo, yes, thank you. But you know, rambo, he was. That was. I remember seeing that movie because Rocky's was still going on at the time. He was doing those while Rocky was out and that's when he was in the middle of where his body was changing because he was working out. Remember he was getting like after Rocky II he started getting into the. Because of Rocky III he's freaking cut yeah.
Speaker 2:Right, he's ripped. Yeah right, he's ripped yeah, you know, like he's. He was all there, everything he was, just it was nuts he's ripped oh man, yeah, yeah he was like right, that was at his prime doing those Rockies.
Speaker 3:And then when he did the other Rambo, he was ripped in that one, because Rocky 3 was the one he was ripped in yes and then Rambo yeah yeah, rambo.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, rambo. Those are good action movies. Give you that one. That was good shit. Yeah, that was good shit. I dig that. I'm going to have to go and watch them now.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:You were saying we were going to end this. You sound like we're ending the podcast.
Speaker 1:This is going to be the last time. Let's not come up with another one off the cuff, because the Matrix we all used, so this is your fourth one, so this is my fourth one, unless I come up with a fifth one, but the Bourne Identity.
Speaker 2:Ooh.
Speaker 3:Ooh, I was thinking about that one. All of those.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I would consider.
Speaker 3:The Bourne movies. Yeah, those are good movies, man. The Bourne Identity is the first one. The magazine is like my favorite part bro.
Speaker 1:I can for a fifth one when we come back around, yeah.
Speaker 3:I have a few already that I have on a list.
Speaker 1:Oh, that shit works. We're an identity man.
Speaker 2:If ever you get into a situation.
Speaker 3:That shit works.
Speaker 2:The fucking magazine That'll hurt. It fucks people up. I did it, I've done it.
Speaker 3:It fucking works. You could tell by just when you watch it. I'm like, oh wow, that's a pretty smart idea yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean and the chase scenes in that movie.
Speaker 2:Yo when he's driving that little mini car. Yeah, bro, he's being chased in the Mini Cooper. Phenomenal. Those are really really good ones.
Speaker 1:And not just like your neck, before you even know what happened? And he's disarming things just taking the cell phone, because that's when you used to be able to take the batteries out.
Speaker 3:Right, yeah.
Speaker 1:Right, he was doing yeah, oh man, those are good ones.
Speaker 2:That's a good one, man, those are good ones. That was good.
Speaker 1:All three of them were good, I even liked the other one that was the off, the one that was with the the other guy yeah Hawkeye, yeah Hawkeye, yeah, yeah, yeah, hawkeye was in it. No.
Speaker 3:Yeah, hawkeye was in it. We should know his name, it's so horrible.
Speaker 1:Look his name up. But yeah, they did a lot of cool. Second one where they're? Were they in spain or morocco, where they're like chasing him through and like jumping out the window into the other buildings? Morocco, yeah, yeah, that was yeah crazy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he said he's. He's not a big fan of heights either.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they're crazy though it was the cool, what part about that movie was is that they filmed in europe and they were all over the all these cool places, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah it made the movie really good see what I liked about it.
Speaker 2:Matt damon is your regular looking, looking guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he doesn't you know he doesn't look like we're talking just before, but arnold right alone, right he?
Speaker 2:looked like that. He looked like the regular guy jeremy renner.
Speaker 1:Jeremy renner right jeremy.
Speaker 2:Jeremy renner was the last.
Speaker 3:Uh, yes, but yeah man, that was a good one too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that story, that whole thing was awesome yeah, it was really cool because he was still having them out there training taking the meds, right you know. So, yeah, that was, those guys were serious. Man, yeah, those are good, those are good ones, those are sure ones. Yeah, I'm digging those too. I love it. I fucking love that shit. Okay, ready, yeah, number four me. What is it? John wick?
Speaker 2:there you go there, you go, john wicks, for me. I and I saved that one for now. I was really gonna put at the top of the list, but I was like, and let's see what the guys come up.
Speaker 1:I love how uh a reoccurring actors keep coming up arnold, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Reaves yep, because they are the ones. That, that's, it's not a story.
Speaker 2:It's not just you know, it's that, it's their whole story, it's their whole origin. You know what I mean. It's everything about that character and they're worthwhile. And John Wick, bro, the first one, it started out in the beginning of the movie. You just see the truck just roll up and it crashes, you know, just in the slow, like in drive and in uh gear, whatever, and it just stops and he's just like, oh, he think he's gonna die and he just like gets up and walks off. And then they go back and they show the movie you know what I mean like they show how he got to that spot. They put the end.
Speaker 1:Oh, they did the tarantino, yeah right you know, and that was good.
Speaker 2:Oh, you see you fucked up.
Speaker 1:Tarantino has. Oh yeah, if we have extra time we'll pull up.
Speaker 3:We can still go through a few other ones. Yeah, I'm sure. But yeah, but john wicks man, all the john yeah, I like the first couple of ones and then I didn't watch really watch the rest of them.
Speaker 2:Oh, I like the rest of them because they you followed the story. I know it's follow the story, I know, but it's so brutal. I mean not that it's bad, but it's like how is this guy surviving man?
Speaker 2:So he had you know. So that's the. I should have done that in the other episode, the what if? Because what if we all had suits that were bulletproof, like in John Wick, just saying they were Kevlar lined, the suits and the jackets or whatever. So when they're shooting it just kept the bullet from penetrating, but they were black and blue.
Speaker 3:Blue from the bullets hitting them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it wasn't that he was totally bulletproof Ding, ding, ding. It wasn't like that, it was like ooh, fuck, cock cock, cock, cock. Right yeah, it was fucking John Wick movies.
Speaker 3:All of them. Actually, they had some crazy stories. That whole story is just the whole concept, with the coins and everything. I believe it being part of a certain clique of some sort, this underground society, where that hope you don't ever run into these people, because they will own you.
Speaker 2:Just don't do nothing to get run in.
Speaker 3:They have to run up on you and shit.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, that was the bomb that was. That's a crazy story to come up with. Sorry, sorry, hey, you know.
Speaker 3:Last one you're wearing it on your shirt warrior come out to play.
Speaker 1:You ever see warriors oh yeah, warriors, yes, yes, warriors, warriors. How can you guys not mention it right?
Speaker 2:well, he mentioned it. There, I'm wearing the shirt, wearing the shirt, so it's all good. But yeah, Warriors is a good one. Yeah, because that whole movie too, bro.
Speaker 3:And it was in our neighborhood.
Speaker 2:so yeah, it was. It was all over. I ran from the same fucking train station that they ran from.
Speaker 3:Yep, it was right in my house. Right near Lyft New Trick Avenue, Maple Lane's boarding house back there the N train and the.
Speaker 1:B train. I only saw it a couple times. I've only seen Warriors a couple times.
Speaker 2:Oh, dude, man, Great movie.
Speaker 3:Can you dig it yeah?
Speaker 2:Can you dig it? Yeah, Cyrus, say it again.
Speaker 1:That is like a crazy movie if you think about it.
Speaker 2:And it's a fact. It was a fucking fact. There was more gangs In the 70s, in the 50s, but the gangs In Warriors.
Speaker 1:They're all dressed the same Different.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you know what bro?
Speaker 1:It was like you know, that's the.
Speaker 3:That's how it was All the way up to when you watch gang movies From the 50s and 60s it was like that they had the suits and whatever. Probably even earlier than that too, the 40s too, I'm sure, the motorcycles.
Speaker 2:They did. They had the leather jackets. They had the leather jackets, you know, and the MC boots and shit like that, with the jeans they all had like a certain you know, click, and they did have to do certain things or wear a certain thing to colors or they. It's like the motorcycle clubs.
Speaker 3:That's where they have the rockers.
Speaker 2:It's the top the middle, the top, bottom and then the middle. So it's the name of the club. That's true, I guess. Say like their crest if you will and then where they were from. So that's called rockers and they have all three rockers and only some clubs are allowed to wear the rockers. But that's off subject. Something else altogether, but yeah, man, I'm telling you that was some good shit right there. Yeah, Warriors would be one of mine, so that's my fourth one.
Speaker 1:Okay, so you are up, my friend, so I couple one off the cuff, but it's going to be. I like the whole series. The first one is really a Christmas movie Die Hard, Die Hard. Yes.
Speaker 3:I have it on my list Die Hard 3.
Speaker 1:I think is the one that really that whole movie with the, with the mixing of the bombs and you know, and then with the aqueduct yeah, yeah, see, I can't watch that movie. I love the movie, I like it was that the first movie with Samuel Jackson where he was like motherfucker, motherfucker, motherfucker? Not the first movie with samuel jackson where he was like motherfucker, motherfucker?
Speaker 2:motherfucker because he's not the first one. No, not the first movie, no, but he was his normal yeah, yeah you know, yeah, you were not disappointed.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he was nicer in that flick yeah, he was because yeah, he was, he was serious hey, seuss, yeah, zeus, zeus, as in, I will they said hey, zeus lightning bolt up your ass yeah, that was a good flick.
Speaker 2:That was good, but I can't watch that movie because everything that they did in the movie like where they were right wrong- I know, yeah, you're right, yeah because they right.
Speaker 3:I noticed that it was.
Speaker 2:Most of it was in new york yeah, but, yeah, but the way they like where they were driving the trucks and stuff like that.
Speaker 3:You know where they were.
Speaker 1:It doesn't add up on the map.
Speaker 2:No, it doesn't add up on the map where they cut off from. So they're coming over a bridge and they see it, but when they show where they are on the bridge they're looking at the wrong side of the bridge. You know what I mean. Like that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:You can't drive. Only a New Yorker would know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they can't drive. They don't allow big trucks like that.
Speaker 3:Well, that was the same in the Warriors when they were running through the stations.
Speaker 1:it was 60 2nd Street, but they made it to something else, but it was a totally different station. I didn't care for the second Die Hard movie, the airport. It was all right, it was okay.
Speaker 2:It was all right, it was all right, it was good, but yeah, no, I'm with you, it wasn't. But all of them are Christmas movies, because, oh no, part three wasn't, it was the summertime in the city, but the first two were all day Christmas ones, and the last one with his son, though it was two more, he had it with his kids.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, he did one when he had to go to Russia, or something like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he had to go to Russia or something like that, yeah he went to go to Russia and put his son or whatever.
Speaker 1:I remember that one, Bruce Willis man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, I appreciate you, bruce, brother. We love you, man.
Speaker 3:You hooked us up with some good shit, man.
Speaker 1:Apparently. Even though he can't talk anymore, they said you can still tell he's still got the same personality. Yeah, he does he does.
Speaker 2:That was the shit, bro. Yeah. No, it's your turn, bro. Okay. So for me super throwback movie, and it was probably more because of this one part. But Bullet there's a movie called Bullet with Steve McQueen and it is probably they say it's the greatest car chase scene in movie history. I think the Blues Brothers was a better card chase, which is another good action flick, I guess, but Bullet it was a good cop movie. You've seen Bullet, no?
Speaker 3:I think, so, I think I remember. Yeah, yes, I did.
Speaker 1:My favorite card chase scene movie is Matrix Reloaded Matrix Reloaded Car scene. Card chase scene oh yeah.
Speaker 2:To me. That's my best. I think that is a good one. That is a good one you never seen. You've seen that one, right? Yeah, I've seen all the matrixes. You know they made that highway just for that movie yeah, it's crazy they made that movie just for that fucking that is crazy.
Speaker 1:They did that and they filmed that movie. I don't know the first one, but I know the second and third one were filmed austral.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was good shit. But yeah, that was my another quickie, little one Bullet what you got, oh?
Speaker 3:okay, Already. Huh. Well, this is not one. It was a good movie because of how it was made and how real it was. It was just. It blew you away, Private Ryan.
Speaker 2:That was a crazy action film. Ryan was a. That was a pretty intense intense movie.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that thing blew me away, man there was 82nd airborne on world war ii oh, he really.
Speaker 1:I mean it stormed the beaches of normandy, you know it came up yeah right, but uh, he really, he said that movie was very realistic. Yeah, that movie blew me away when I saw that movie was very realistic really.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that movie blew me away when I saw that movie. I can't really watch army flicks like that you know, like that kind of the reality, yeah, but you gotta remember that's. Did you ever see the movie?
Speaker 2:I saw some of it. I didn't see the whole thing, so if you watch, it from the beginning.
Speaker 3:Then you, it goes into a story, so yeah, it's not just the beach scene, you know.
Speaker 2:And then it goes oh, yeah, I'm just saying like I can't watch, like it's too emotional for me.
Speaker 3:Oh, I got you, you know, and that kind of thing.
Speaker 2:You know, I don't know why just army flicks like those kind of army flicks. Saving Private Ryan.
Speaker 3:Right and the Brothers Right. I saw it at Upstate in Monticello. Actually, that movie blew me and of course I made the mistake of smoking before I went to see it. So you were crying. So no, it just no. It was more intense Really. Not that it was emotional, don't get me wrong, but because it was because of the movie and what it was about and everything. But it was super intense. When you're watching it I was blinded and I'm like what is wrong with me doing that?
Speaker 2:you're crazy man it was crazy, crazy man. No, I couldn't do it. Yeah, well, I mean, I think that those are pretty fucking. Was that five?
Speaker 3:that wasn't five, that was four, wasn't it?
Speaker 1:it was four well, because, well, I did five, you did five alright, so I did five, you did five All right, so I did five as well. But I have extra.
Speaker 2:So what else you got then? So you know, we'll throw them in.
Speaker 3:We still got a couple minutes we got a couple minutes so I put on Lord of the Rings.
Speaker 2:Lord of the Rings Okay right, fantasy, but it's action. Yeah, yeah, it was crazy. Yeah, what else. Jurassic Park yeah, there's a lot of running through that movie, the whole shit.
Speaker 1:Shoot her. I don't know why that first thing, came to mind Shoot her.
Speaker 3:That was a crazy movie man, that was wild.
Speaker 2:That's another what if too. What if?
Speaker 3:What if you hear they want to bring back the woolly mammoth? Right, they're going to use. Huh, it's supposed to help with the environment, I guess how they eat or how they roam and do what they do there's not enough space for them to fucking roam but it's supposed to do something and that's why they want to bring them back. So I don't know how to put well, you know, but if they could do that, that's like a huge, you know, but that would be a cool movie to make.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, the Woolly Mammoth. The Woolly Mammoth. What is that movie?
Speaker 3:It's coming to you, I see.
Speaker 2:I had another one, bullet Commando Matrix. I know there's probably a whole bunch man that in the back of the head that were like oh shit, we didn't see that one.
Speaker 3:Oh wait, I do have one more. Go ahead one more that you guys probably forgot about Nighthawks.
Speaker 2:Dude. So who really remembers Nighthawks? Did you ever hear of that shit? Nighthawks was.
Speaker 3:Sylvester Stallone.
Speaker 2:Oh my god.
Speaker 3:Great movie man.
Speaker 2:Fucking Billy Dee Williams.
Speaker 3:Billy Dee Williams. Billy Dee Williams Classic. It was about terrorism in New York.
Speaker 2:Gandalf Calrissian. Gandalf Calrissian, yeah, and it was a good movie. I'm not going to tell you different. It was a good movie. I saw it a couple of times in the theaters when it had come out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's one of my, and if I see that on there I'll stop and watch it.
Speaker 2:Late 70s, early 80s, nighthawks, I think, early 80, late in that 70s. Yeah, the bad guy, uh, I can't think of his name, but so, uh, 52nd in the in new york city there's a tram take you to roosevelt island and the guy was in there and he had everybody on that fucking thing hostage, bro and blew this person away in there and whatnot. Yeah, it was, it was. It was a super intense movie. It was an intense movie. That was a.
Speaker 3:That's one of my that I remember growing up with it, seeing all the time I'm surprised you remembered that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm surprised you remember that there's been a bunch of movies that, uh, people have forgotten whatnot. Yeah, but that's cool. We'll finish off on nighthawks. That was a a good one that was a really really good one that was Ha. Well, I hope you guys enjoyed it, and then you guys can turn around and let us know, of course, Anything that you thought about, like oh, we should have mentioned that we have to do a Mailbag 2 episode, like you guys said. We got to do that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that, yeah, okay, well, we gotta figure it out, figure it out yeah, but all good.
Speaker 2:So, with that being said, love, peace and hair grease live long, and prosper and go vegan, hello you.
